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Life after the polygraph
Nov 8th, 2009 at 7:42pm
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I would like to know how life is for people after the polygraph?  What sorts of things is a person who is deemed deceptive and/or inconclusive doing in regards to employment and such.  Are you still in the government, law enforcement, private sector?

Myself, I was deemed as inconclusive.  You can read my tale on here.  About two weeks after my BI had started and one week after I was offered another poly I dropped the job process.  I am currently doing some work in hopes of landing a job in education.  As I am still young, I want a job that pays decently and gives me some flexibility.  I may want to go into law later, but for now, that is my present status.  I still think about my "event" several months after it happened.
  
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Re: Life after the polygraph
Reply #1 - Nov 8th, 2009 at 8:57pm
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There are some interesting perspectives on this question here:  https://antipolygraph.org/statements.shtml

and here:  http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2002/11/lie-detector-roulette. ;

Good luck with your many other career options.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 10th, 2009 at 5:39pm
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Miss Sack,

Thank you for all your advice and help and thank you for the link for the article.  Very interesting and informative.  I had read the personal statements a while ago, but I went over most of them again.  My "drug" that I was accused of was alcohol.

Does anybody else have any thing that they'd like to share about life after the fact?
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 11th, 2009 at 12:01am
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Did you FOIA request the investigative file in your case?  Accusing people of deception on the drug question seems pretty standard, and alcohol use is essentially required by the good ol boy culture at a lot of these institutions.  So I sort-of doubt that because a question was raised about your response to a question about alcohol use on the polygraph, then you were denied employment on that basis alone.  (That doesn't make your statements any less valid or your denial any more legitimate -- it just means that the process is so non-transparent and the incentives so perverse, if you don't have the file in hand, you really don't know what happened.) 
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 11th, 2009 at 2:15am
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No, not as of yet. I was told that after the second round of questions.  After the very first time I was told that everything was all messed up, so that would mean that I was messing up on the control as well.

I'm surprised I didn't get accused of lying about the standard drugs like pot.  Since it seems an extremely large percent are accused of that.  I was also accused of academic dishonesty.  Those two, alcohol and academic dishonesty were the issues that i had throughout the remainder of the exam.  Then on the very last round, apparently I had a problem with felonies. Of course I never did any of these nor do I have a problem with alcohol. We did the first round of 7 questions about 5 times, we never even got to espionage questions. 

As I said, perhaps the test was just so messed up that it was unreadable and thus my inconclusive.  By the time I was called to take another one, I had stumbled onto this site and had read up more on the process.  Also, i generally was not interested in it anymore, finding the federal job process draining and depressing. I got in toouch with my AC and emailed them to let them know that I was getting out tof the job process.  I jut got a "thanks for letting me know."

The polygrapher was trying to get me to go back on some information that i had provided that both the interviewing agent and himself had told me it was ok and wasn't a problem.  I assume this information had gotten back to DC as well and they went with their agent who had decided it was a non issue or else i would have been DQ'ed outright and sent a rejection letter.

As of today, i have not received any sort of denial letter nor have I heard anything back from them.  I will file the FOIA next year.  I assume there is no time limit to file one, correct?  I know it will probably take a year to get unless I go through the Merit Systems Board, though I will have to look into that to see how it works.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 20th, 2013 at 7:16am
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Of course, the almighty CIA won't release polygraph results under either the FOIA or Privacy Acts! Angry
  

What do we call it when every employee of the Agency's Office of Security
and Office of Personnel drowns in the Potomac?   A great beginning!

The best intelligence community employee is a compromised IC employee!
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