They may give reasons for denial (in writing) that differ entirely from the reasons for denial in your file.   It is my a posteriori understanding you are only entitled to the real reasons for denial if you request the file under FOIA.  

Thus it is in your best interests to request the file asap.  In this way, you will be informed enough to contest and adequately address any incorrect reasons for denial in the course of your appeal, should your agency's process grant that opportunity. 

FOIA requests are tricky.  You have to keep following up and pester them if necessary.

I got a reply from the FBI saying there was no file available.  Then, months later, out of the blue I got a stack of stuff from them and found I they had investigated me for espionage based soley on my NSA polygraph.

I am still waiting for NSA to respond.  Haven't really followed up with them.  But I will.  What could they possibly have to hide?

TC

I had a friend tell me that he was told he passed, was patted on his back, and given a tour of the station??

I have had another friend tell me that he waited about 3 weeks bitting his nails until they told him by phone.

Who knows??? seriously, watch your butt.  Do not trust anyone!!!!!

I know of LE officers getting fired for having an arguement with their spouse in the car with their partner present. and get fired for offending him/her during call.!!!!!!

Katelyn Sack wrote on Sep 9^th, 2009 at 11:44pm:



Thanks for this response (and all the ones below it in the OP thread).   

How does said relative go about filing a FOIA request?  What is an "LE"? 

It's not me that is trying to get the clearance, honestly.  It IS a relative and I'm trying to keep it gender-neutral since supposedly real poly admins and "top dogs" browse this site.  I let on it's NSA because I don't know if policy differs from agency to agency - don't really know too much about this.  It's all greek to me!

Alright - said relative had h(is/her) 2nd poly last week for NSA.  Unfortunately, this one seemed to go worse than the last one - I don't know all the details b/c said relative was so upset afterwards s/he wouldn't go into it.  Relative is aware of this site and has skimmed the lie behind the lie detector. . .  I think said relative was so stressed out BEFORE taking the 2nd one that s/he decided not to review this material -- big mistake in my humble opinion.

ANyway, the examiner indicated that there would be a third try on this stupid thing.  However, said relative is already so worked up b/c s/he believes that if s/he fails this thing this time. . . s/he is going to lose his/her job!!  Understandably, s/he is stressed out.  However, s.he is going to study TLBTLD pdf and my questions are. . .

1) does s/he have a chance of passing after two previous "failures" if s/he applies the techniques here?

2)  can you be denied an NSA clearance solely on failing a poly - it appears everything else is in order and this is the hiccup in the way. . .

3)  this is my own idea and I haven't shared it with said relative yet but -- do they ask you if you've taken medicines that morning or something like that.  Because my feeling is why not take an antihistimine or allergy medicine or something over the counter that takes the edge of. . .i.e., makes you sleepy and, subsequently, more relaxed... before taking this g-dd--n test??

Thanks for the replies and ANY suggestions.

Said relative is really feeling the pressure because s/he loves job and doesn't want to lose it.  S/he is a contractor working on an NSA project.

I am dropping the agency because I'd love to hear specific replies to NSA policies on this.    Will his/her case stil be adjudicated or whatever even though the poly isn't passed?