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Truce New User Offline Posts: 2 Joined: Jan 20^th, 2009	Have TS/SCI being asked to take CI Poly.... Jan 20^th, 2009 at 6:39pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I currently have a TS/SCI clearance and am being asked by my employer to submit to a CI Poly for a specific customer. I have told my employer NO twice, they are now asking again. My question is what could the repercussions be if I refuse. I am located in Northern Virginia. Thanks for the help/advice.


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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: Have TS/SCI being asked to take CI Poly.... Reply #1 - Jan 20^th, 2009 at 8:50pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	There is a federal attorney last name Cohen in the DC area that specializes in that sort of thing. Google him. Ask your employer if he wants to see a psychic clairvoyant while you're at it. Their track record is probably better. TC

	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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Truce New User Offline Posts: 2 Joined: Jan 20^th, 2009	Re: Have TS/SCI being asked to take CI Poly.... Reply #2 - Jan 21^st, 2009 at 12:25pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	My real concern is, could my refusal to submit to this CI Poly be cause for the termination of my employment. While the clearance was a condition of employment submitting to a CI and or a Full Scope Poly never was. I have already refused a Full Scope Poly with no repercussions at all. Could be because so did many of the top executives of the company...... In the case of the CI Poly, I am being asked simply because there are only two cleared individuals at my facility at this time. The new "customer" requires 24X7 on-call support. The other individual has been issued a TS/SCI w/Full Scope, so if I refuse the CI Poly he will be the only one able to escort or access the customers area within the facility. Several others are currenty undergoing ther TS Clearance investigations and could potentially undergo the CI Poly once they have been issued their TS clearances..... So again my concern is, could I be fired for specifically refusing to take the CI Poly. I have no concerns about taking the CI Poly, I am just adamantly against them.


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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: Have TS/SCI being asked to take CI Poly.... Reply #3 - Jan 21^st, 2009 at 6:22pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	This business of not having enough personnel having taken the full scope poly is your employer's problem, not yours. What happens if you test "false positive" on the polygraph? That is, you tell the truth yet are failed. Do you think for a minute your employer will give a rat's ass about YOU, should that effect your employment status? It is not your fault agency's rely on this bogus ritual of a polygraph. You need to contact Mr. Cohen! TC

	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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