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heywheresmysnack New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Nov 7^th, 2008	Sexual Harassment, Scared out of my MIND Nov 7^th, 2008 at 12:19am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I know I didn't do what I was accused of doing, however I also know about false positives and whatnot. I know that polygraphs are imprecise at best. My life's dreams and my current career hinges on a polygraph test. I work for the State so if I refuse to take the polygraph I am fired and can never work for the State again. I am currently two years into college to become an English Teacher and this could completely ruin any hopes I have of ever teaching. I don't know what I'm going to do... The woman said I did something I didn't do. Then she took things that I had said in the past completely out of context. And she left out all the jokes and ribbings she had given me in the past about wanting her. I know Internal Affairs wants to prove simply if I sexually harassed this woman. But what if I get scared about the things I said in the past or especially nervous when they ask certain questions. I don't know what to do...


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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: Sexual Harassment, Scared out of my MIND Reply #1 - Nov 7^th, 2008 at 12:35am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: I work for the State so if I refuse to take the polygraph I am fired and can never work for the State again. Don't be so sure. Were you told that by a lawyer who knows what he's talking about? The EPPA may protect you. TC

	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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heywheresmysnack New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Nov 7^th, 2008	Re: Sexual Harassment, Scared out of my MIND Reply #2 - Nov 7^th, 2008 at 12:41am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	You know, its funny, I've always been in the camp that said "If you are innocent, you have nothing to hide". It's different when it's YOUR butt on the line. And no, I haven't talked with a lawyer about it.


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Twoblock God Member Offline Posts: 732 Location: AR. Joined: Oct 15^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: Sexual Harassment, Scared out of my MIND Reply #3 - Nov 7^th, 2008 at 2:39am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I agree with TC. Each state may have different rules and statutes covering this. In general, I don't believe they have the right to fire you over a failed polygraph. LE can poly you for employment, but they shouldn't be able to fire you over refusing to take it. Tell them you are talking to a lawyer about your constitutional rights in this regard. Maybe that will cause them to rethink their position.


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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: Sexual Harassment, Scared out of my MIND Reply #4 - Nov 7^th, 2008 at 2:41am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	With regard to federal employees. They may be required to take a polygraph, and can be fired for REFUSING to take one, but they can't not be fired simply for failing a test based on the chart alone. They can only be fired based on any INFO THEY DIVULGED during the test. Another reason for NOT saying anything other than "NO/YES" to a relevant question (whichever is truth). Do not speculate during the polygraph on why you might be "having trouble with this or that question"...etc. TC

	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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heywheresmysnack New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Nov 7^th, 2008	Re: Sexual Harassment, Scared out of my MIND Reply #5 - Nov 7^th, 2008 at 3:40am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	All I ever did was joke, and the topic was always brought up by her. It was nothing of an EXTREME nature, but I know in order for it to be sexual harassment, it has to be unwelcome, and if the woman is laughing and saying things as well, I don't think that would be considered sexual harassment.


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6220 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: Sexual Harassment, Scared out of my MIND Reply #6 - Nov 7^th, 2008 at 4:53am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	heywheresmysnack wrote on Nov 7^th, 2008 at 12:19am: I don't know what I'm going to do... I think you should without delay consult with a lawyer who has experience in labor law. If you don't know one, Martindale's free Lawyer Locator service might be helpful for finding one near you: http://www.martindale.com In addition, if you're a member of a labor union, you'll want to contact your union representative regarding your options. With regard to polygraph "testing," you'll want to read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, which explains the trickery on which this invalid procedure (increasingly not so) secretly depends.

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Eric Schechter Guest	Re: Sexual Harassment, Scared out of my MIND Reply #7 - Nov 26^th, 2008 at 11:03pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	After reading your post I think its really imperative that you consult a lawyer who has experience in labor law. If you don't know one, Legal Matches lawyer/client matching service might be helpful for locating one near you. Their website is http://www.legalmatch.com Hope this helps!


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