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I have a question for poly. examiners or anyone with simmilar situatuion.  I am trying to get hired by a local department(police).  I went in today and got all of my uniforms duty belt jacket holster everything but the gun. AFTER that i went to take my poly test.  I did good on the test BUT the examiner said that iwas being deceptive on the last time i smoked pot.  Now I know that this is a lie because I havent in a long time so he tells me that some people make nistakes to just go ahead and tell him that there is nothing wrong, pretty much playing my buddy.  He said i have to come in for a retake on monday but if i think of anything to call him.  Now i call a little bullsh** on this because when i took a CVSA he said the same thing then all of a sudden when i didnt confess he said oops i was looking at the wrong question.  I was told by a deputy that the poly isnt an exit point meaning that i cant not be hired because of this but i wanna know if this is a technique that poly examiners use or will this really have a bad effect on  my career.  I already have the uniform and aan employee id number. Undecided
  
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Reply #1 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 1:55am
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Reply #2 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 3:18pm
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Reply #3 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 3:23pm
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What was the question you wanted to ask? Polygraphy, like CVSA, is indeed bullshit of the highest order. It's used to scare admissions out of the naive and gullible:




Based on your account, it seems likely that your polygrapher scored the charts as inconclusive. See The Lie Behind the Lie Detector (1 mb PDF) if you'd like to know more about polygraph procedure before your follow-on session:

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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 5:22pm
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Since you seem to prefer to side step tough questions, how about:

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Reply #5 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 6:21pm
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I guess i want to know if this is a tatic that u have heard.  maybe they will call back and say that i passed or i will have to take another one.  when i had the cvsa i said he was wrong and he said whoops i made a mistake. on the poly i just said that i have no problem taking it again because im not lying was that the right move?
  
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Reply #6 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 6:33pm
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Telling people that they're "having trouble" and calling them back for one or more "re-tests" is a common pre-employment interrogation strategy at intelligence agencies such as the NSA and CIA. It's less common with local law enforcement agencies with tighter budgetary constraints. While it's possible that you passed and that your polygrapher was just bluffing you for an admission, it's also possible that he scored the charts as "inconclusive" and will indeed subject you to a "re-test."
  

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Re: just took a poly
Reply #7 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 4:01am
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I did good on the test BUT the examiner said that iwas being deceptive on the last time i smoked pot.  Now I know that this is a lie because I havent in a long time....


He said you were "being deceptive" when you weren't.  That should tell you something.  What more do you really need to know?  What more is there to say?

If you have to retest, stick to your answer if that is the truth.  If he continues to say you are being deceptive, just smile and tell him you've answered truthfully. 

If he gets really angry at you, then consider this as a bit of training.  As a LEO, you are bound to run into situations where a citizen goes into a shit fit with you.  And as a professional in these types of situations, you should keep your cool, and just stick with the facts/truth, and do what needs to be done.  Same thing with the polygraph.  Just keep your cool, stick to the truth, and don't get bull shited.

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