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Sep 28th, 2008 at 1:09am
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Does the polygraph machine directly measure deception?

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"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

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Reply #1 - Sep 28th, 2008 at 2:55am
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T.M. Cullen wrote on Sep 28th, 2008 at 1:09am:
Does the polygraph machine directly measure deception?

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Actually, NO  Grin it doesn't. 
Many well known experts have established that it is impossible with current technology to actually detect deception.
Even though the polygraph is better known as a lie detector machine, many poligraphers have admitted that it isn't an accurate name.
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Well, each polygrapher I've ever dealt with claimed, in no uncertain terms, that the machine was indicating deception on my part.  Judging by the number of people who have reported the same experience during their polygraphs, this seems to be quite common.  That means many polygraphers must be lying.   Well, actually, it means they are either ignorant (if they actually believe that the machine detects deception), or they are telling a lie (they know it doesn't detect deception but claim it does anyway).

Sounds like many polygraph examiners lack integrity. 

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T.M. Cullen wrote on Sep 28th, 2008 at 8:22am:
Well, each polygrapher I've ever dealt with claimed, in no uncertain terms, that the machine was indicating deception on my part.  Judging by the number of people who have reported the same experience during their polygraphs, this seems to be quite common.  That means many polygraphers must be lying.   Well, actually, it means they are either ignorant (if they actually believe that the machine detects deception), or they are telling a lie (they know it doesn't detect deception but claim it does anyway).

Sounds like many polygraph examiners lack integrity. 

TC


TC, I agree, however as you may know the polygraphers are determined to down play the number of people who have had the same experiences as we had. They insist on ignoring the invalidity of their machines and instead would rather smear the integrity of honest people telling us we are whiners and most likely liars to bolster their theories.
This is status quo for these people. 
Of course my polygrapher told me several lies beginning with his claim that this "test" is in fact a test and then that it is about 95% accurate! Of course his whole card game depended on me believing all this non-sense and giving him what he was really looking for....
a confession at the end of the card trick..... which he didn't get rendering his "test" useless. 

  
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