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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Sep 25^th, 2008 at 9:02pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Check this out: https://antipolygraph.org/yabbfiles/Attachments/Antipolygraph_websites_-_Polygra... I seriously doubt examiners who've posted here have gotten viruses from this board. TC

	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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notguilty1 Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 300 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2008	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #1 - Sep 25^th, 2008 at 10:59pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	T.M. Cullen wrote on Sep 25^th, 2008 at 9:02pm: Check this out: https://antipolygraph.org/yabbfiles/Attachments/Antipolygraph_websites_-_Polygra... I seriously doubt examiners who've posted here have gotten viruses from this board. TC Wow! Read the thread and they do nothing there but pat each other on the back and talk about our site ... how stimulating! Even though I disagree with Sancho and alike I must admit we have a far more lively conversation and exchange here.


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SanchoPanza Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 343 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2007	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #2 - Sep 25^th, 2008 at 11:54pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Interesting thread but its a bit stale, the newest post there is ove 11 months old. Hardly a revelation. It did raise a good question though. Why should someone who is wants to pass a polygraph examination seek advice on how to pass one, from a group of people who failed? It's kind of like getting tips on how to pass a field sobriety test from a bunch of convicted drunk drivers. Sancho Panza

	Quand vous citez des langues que vous ne parlez pas afin de sembler intellegent, vous vous avérez seulement que votre tête est gonflée mais videz.
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Sergeant1107 God Member Offline Posts: 730 Location: Connecticut, USA Joined: May 21^st, 2005 Gender:	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #3 - Sep 26^th, 2008 at 1:17am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	SanchoPanza wrote on Sep 25^th, 2008 at 11:54pm: Interesting thread but its a bit stale, the newest post there is ove 11 months old. Hardly a revelation. It did raise a good question though. Why should someone who is wants to pass a polygraph examination seek advice on how to pass one, from a group of people who failed? It's kind of like getting tips on how to pass a field sobriety test from a bunch of convicted drunk drivers. Sancho Panza It is probably a bit more like a person who hadn't had a drink, was arrested for DUI, and blew .25 on the Intoxilyzer. If that person then went to a web site with statements from other people who said they didn't believet he Intoxilyzer was accurate because they, too, blew over zero despite not having had a drink, that would be somewhat similar to the reason a lot of people come to this web site. If all that was required to pass a polygraph was to tell the truth this web site would not exist. If the polygraph was an accurate scientific test the requirements for "passing" would be to tell the truth. Clearly that is not the case.

	Lorsque vous utilisez un argumentum ad hominem, tout le monde sait que vous êtes intellectuellement faillite.
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SanchoPanza Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 343 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2007	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #4 - Sep 26^th, 2008 at 1:51am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Sergeant, Why even bother to quote my question if you don't intend to address it? If you want to use an entirely different question in order to give the answer you want to give, you don't need the quote. The question you answered was "I failed my polygraph where can I find some folks to join me in a cluster-whine? My question was: Why should someone who is wants to pass a polygraph examination seek advice on how to pass one, from a group of people who failed? It's kind of like getting tips on how to pass a field sobriety test from a bunch of convicted drunk drivers Do you need THIS question explained to you? The difference is, yours presumes that someone has taken the test and failed. My question presumes that someone has not taken their test yet and is concerned and trying to insure they pass. I'm guessing you prefer to answer your question instead of mine because you can just reach into the official AP.org book of canned responses without having to think. As to your closing remark. Actually, if Dr. Maschke hadn't failed his test, this site would not exist and if you had passed yours, you wouldn't be here. Sancho Panza

	Quand vous citez des langues que vous ne parlez pas afin de sembler intellegent, vous vous avérez seulement que votre tête est gonflée mais videz.
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notguilty1 Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 300 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2008	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #5 - Sep 26^th, 2008 at 2:34am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	SanchoPanza wrote on Sep 25^th, 2008 at 11:54pm: Interesting thread but its a bit stale, the newest post there is ove 11 months old. Hardly a revelation. It did raise a good question though. Why should someone who is wants to pass a polygraph examination seek advice on how to pass one, from a group of people who failed? It's kind of like getting tips on how to pass a field sobriety test from a bunch of convicted drunk drivers. Sancho Panza Of course Sancho, I want advise from the very folks who perpetuated the scam on me. That makes so much sense! WOW! Let's see, telling the truth didn't work so...... let's ask the guy with the machine how to pass.


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SanchoPanza Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 343 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2007	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #6 - Sep 26^th, 2008 at 3:46am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Notguilty1 I see you have trouble answering a straightforward question as well. SanchoPanza

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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #7 - Sep 26^th, 2008 at 3:53am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	If you plan to visit a used car lot, where you know a lot of "games" are played and "tricks" perpetrated, would you ask for advice from other used car salesman, or talk to people ripped off by other dealers? Best yet would be taking advice from a former used car salesman gone "straight" who is exposing the tricks of the trade. Like Doug Williams. Would you go to some used car sales trade association (APA) website, or to a consumer advocate/protection agency website? If a leading government agency put out a report informing congress and the public that used car lots are the worst place to buy a car, and are in fact, fraught with problems, would you ignore it saying: "What do they know?!! I'd better go talk to some local used car sales people to get the truth!"? If a homeless person walked up to you and said, "sir, can you help me? I haven't had a bit in two days!", would you bite him?!

	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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notguilty1 Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 300 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2008	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #8 - Sep 26^th, 2008 at 4:14am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	SanchoPanza wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 3:46am: Notguilty1 I see you have trouble answering a straightforward question as well. SanchoPanza Sancho, Your question has been answered by many hear just not what you want to hear..... What a surprise


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6223 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #9 - Sep 26^th, 2008 at 5:07am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	T.M. Cullen wrote on Sep 25^th, 2008 at 9:02pm: Check this out: https://antipolygraph.org/yabbfiles/Attachments/Antipolygraph_websites_-_Polygra... I seriously doubt examiners who've posted here have gotten viruses from this board. TC To put the PolygraphPlace.com discussion thread in context, it came in the aftermath of our decision to ban and publicly name a group of polygraph examiners who organized a trolling campaign on this message board. With the exception of "lielabs," all of the participants in that thread were among the outed trolls. The PolygraphPlace.com message thread was quickly deleted from that site, but I posted a saved copy when reference was made to the thread.

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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: And the polygraph crowd says WE RANT? Reply #10 - Sep 26^th, 2008 at 5:59am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	GW, That explains the anti-poly URL. I found the link on a google search. The thread goes to show how threatened they feel about having the truth about the polygraph exposed. Gee, why did they delete the thread? What a bunch of ranting fear mongers! TC

	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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