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hypnomonkey New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Jul 13^th, 2008	serious question for the experts Jul 16^th, 2008 at 3:06pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Thanks for the replies to my last thread. A little info about my current situation. I currently work for a certain agency with a certain position of trust. My agency has recently incorperated polygraph and cvsa in there anual employee screening. Everyone has to take these stupid tests to ensure they are still angelic little boys and girls, no one is excluded. I have some minor drug use in my past, extacy being the strongest about 6 years ago. I bought and smoked a doobie about a month ago. Both would be ground for immediate dissmisal. I also bought a stolen bycicle 5 years ago wich also would be grounds for immediate dissmisal. So basically, what i'm trying to say is, I have to lie my ass off to keep my job, and lose my six figure income, and probably my sound family life. What would be the best course of action to take (telling the truth is not an option), would it require a lot of training? Some expert advice would be gratefully appreciated, and I dont want a lecture on how lying is morally wrong. thanks guys...


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6211 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: serious question for the experts Reply #1 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 3:59pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	hypnomonkey wrote on Jul 16^th, 2008 at 3:06pm: Thanks for the replies to my last thread. A little info about my current situation. I currently work for a certain agency with a certain position of trust. My agency has recently incorperated polygraph and cvsa in there anual employee screening. Everyone has to take these stupid tests to ensure they are still angelic little boys and girls, no one is excluded. I have some minor drug use in my past, extacy being the strongest about 6 years ago. I bought and smoked a doobie about a month ago. Both would be ground for immediate dissmisal. I also bought a stolen bycicle 5 years ago wich also would be grounds for immediate dissmisal. So basically, what i'm trying to say is, I have to lie my ass off to keep my job, and lose my six figure income, and probably my sound family life. What would be the best course of action to take (telling the truth is not an option), would it require a lot of training? Some expert advice would be gratefully appreciated, and I dont want a lecture on how lying is morally wrong. thanks guys... You've come to the wrong place then. AntiPolygraph.org makes information about polygraph countermeasures freely available to the public in order to provide truthful persons with a means of protecting themselves against the serious risk of a false positive outcome. We have no interest in helping liars beat the system. I'm afraid you're on your own.

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hypnomonkey New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Jul 13^th, 2008	Re: serious question for the experts Reply #2 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 7:30pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	is it true pathological liars have no problem with the mickey mouse machine?


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polytechnic New User Offline Posts: 23 Joined: May 23^rd, 2008	Re: serious question for the experts Reply #3 - Jul 17^th, 2008 at 1:33pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	hypnomonkey wrote on Jul 16^th, 2008 at 7:30pm: is it true pathological liars have no problem with the mickey mouse machine? The term 'pathological liar' is a misnomer. There is no such thing. Maybe you are referring to sociopaths....? If so, they make for excellent subjects to be interrogated (with apparatus) and that is because they fear consequences and incarceration as much as so-called 'normal' folk.


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notguilty1 Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 300 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2008	Re: serious question for the experts Reply #4 - Jul 17^th, 2008 at 2:20pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	yeah, yeah ahhh the "apparatus" Well, your "apparatus" continually fails. So much so that it's illegal to use in most applications where deception detection would be usefull if not vital. Can you say Gary Ridgeway ( amongst others) polytechnic wrote on Jul 17^th, 2008 at 1:33pm: hypnomonkey wrote on Jul 16^th, 2008 at 7:30pm: is it true pathological liars have no problem with the mickey mouse machine? The term 'pathological liar' is a misnomer. There is no such thing. Maybe you are referring to sociopaths....? If so, they make for excellent subjects to be interrogated (with apparatus) and that is because they fear consequences and incarceration as much as so-called 'normal' folk.


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polytechnic New User Offline Posts: 23 Joined: May 23^rd, 2008	Re: serious question for the experts Reply #5 - Jul 18^th, 2008 at 9:32am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	NG, You're preaching to the converted.


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notguilty1 Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 300 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2008	Re: serious question for the experts Reply #6 - Jul 18^th, 2008 at 2:29pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	polytechnic wrote on Jul 18^th, 2008 at 9:32am: NG, You're preaching to the converted. Good! But it can never be said enough


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