"Police involvement" is a pretty vague term. One would think that what the questionnaire is getting at is having been arrested, cited, or detained by police, none of which seem to apply to your situation. But interpreted very broadly, it could include having reported a crime to police, having gone on a ride-along, or having been escorted to a mental health facility based on a false report.

Jim,

What I meant to point out to Princessmoe is that the matter she mentioned could be considered to fall within the scope of the question about "police involvement," though I can understand how a reasonable person could in good faith interpret the question differently.

Whether or not to disclose this incident is a judgment that Princessmoe will ultimately have to make for herself. But disclosing this incident does not necessarily increase her chances of passing the polygraph (assuming it's required). In fact, such a disclosure could well decrease her chances of passing because doing so will indicate to the LVMPD polygraph section that she has posted on this forum, and could result in an arbitrary accusation of attempted countermeasures.

George W. Maschke wrote on May 29^th, 2008 at 8:18pm:


Well George, not surprisingly I disagree.  If I asked you (or anyone) have you ever had sexual contact with anyone other than your wife?  Does that mean only when married, have you cheated?  Or, does that mean, the way a normal person would interpret it as, anyone other than your wife, ever?   

By somehow allowing for "interpretation" you put aside the primary principle of polygraph success; not to lie, minimize, rationalize or withhold.  I would suggest that is primary problem with many of your minions.  They "interpreted" what they wanted and found themselves unable to get through a test and now condemn the process for catching them, althewhile, they didn't "lie."  Perhaps not, but I suggest they in fact withheld, minimized, avoided, rationalized, etc.

You are correct in stating she/he will have to decide whether or not to disclose this information.  You are also correct in stating that by revealing this information does not increase her/his chance of passing the exmaination.  There may very well be other issues and I would never rest anyone passing a pre-employment examination on a single issue of contention presented here.

As for assumptions of an applicant coming on your site; that is assumed in today's age of information.  No need to boost your ego on that one.  As for arbitrary assumptions of CM's.  Unless she/he decides to employ them, just because an applicant has been on this site, does not mean they're trying to beat the examiner and no "arbitrary" accusations should be made unless they do.

Sackett

Quote:


BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!!!!

You shall never enter the kingdom of Sackett!

Your torment shall be eternal!

sackett wrote on May 31^st, 2008 at 12:59am:


So, all those things it “could be” but you cannot accept or acknowledge the possibility that maybe the polygraph simply cannot accurately detect deception?  Does that seem reasonable to you?

It wasn’t one problem test, it was three.  Then I gave all the same answers on my fourth test and passed.  It’s easy to be consistent in your answers when you are telling the truth.

If you went to a fortune teller and they tried to guess the year you were born, would you be impressed if they got it on the fourth try?  Or would you very reasonably conclude that they are in fact simply guessing and not actually reading your mind or telling your fortune?

I don’t see how any reasonable person could go through an experience like mine and fail to conclude that the polygraph is incapable of anything resembling consistent accuracy.  If you went through four polygraphs, told the truth on all of them and didn't withold any information, and failed the first three do you really think you would have concluded that the polygraph is useful and accurate in pre-employment screening?  Or would you have assumed that maybe you were lying but you didn't know it, and somehow you worked out that lie (that you didn't know about) sometime between the third and the fourth polygraph?

BTW, all four polygraphs were pre-employment exams for municipal police agencies in Connecticut.