Mr Maschke

In A Tremor in the Blood, Dr Lykken describes the GKT as a fundamentally different method of polygraphic interrogation and suggests it may have promise as a tool in criminal investigations.  Did he later reject the GKT?  How do you evaluate the Japanese experience with this format?   

From what I have read, heard and been presented in training or seminars, the GKT is very actively used with great success in Japan.  

Of course, the difference is that the Japanese press actually cooperates with law enforcement through an obligation of social responsibility, rather than hampering it through public disclosures, in an effort to make money by being the first to report information.

Sackett

pailryder wrote on May 25^th, 2008 at 3:30pm:


Thank you for pointing that out, and I certainly don't consider it quibbling. I think Lykken is here using "interrogation" in the limited sense of asking questions, rather than in the broader (and more common) sense of confrontational questioning with a view toward obtaining information and/or a confession.

I think that the functions of administering the Guilty Knowledge Test and interrogating a suspect with a view toward obtaining information and/or a confession should properly be separated and performed by different individuals. As Dr. Richardson has pointed out, someone conducting a forensic test should have no interest in the outcome of that test, yet polygraph examiners are typically evaluated based on how frequently they obtain confessions following a "Deception Indicated" result. I don't think a person administering a Guilty Knowledge Test should be involved in post-test interrogation, nor should his performance be judged on confession rates.

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Thank you for the reference!

Sergeant1107,

Jim Sackett can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was referring here to the press reporting about polygraph techniques. Rather, in order to construct a proper Guilty Knowledge Test, it is important that a number of case facts not be publicly known, so that these can be used as "keys." For example, in a murder investigation, if it is publicly reported that the victim was shot in the back of the head with a .22 caliber weapon, then such useful keys as the kind of murder weapon (baseball bat, lead pipe, piano wire, gun, or knife) or, for the next question, the caliber of the weapon (.45, .38, 9mm, 7.62mm, .22, or .40), and where the fatal wound was inflicted (stomach, chest, throat, head, or back) cannot be used.

I would disagree with Jim Sackett's bemoaning of an uncoöperative press lacking in social responsibility. The media frequently coöperate with law enforcement and may well refrain from reporting case facts when asked to do so in the interest of helping solve a case.

The main reason the GKT has not gained wider use in the United States is not that we have an unscrupulous press. Rather, it is that law enforcement agencies, including their polygraph examiners, have shown little interest in the technique, which requires considerably more planning and preparation than the CQT.

For a good primer on the kind of preparation that would be necessary to conduct a GKT, see David Lykken's chapter, "The Body on the Stairs: A Pedagogical Detective Story":

https://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-037.pdf

Mr Maschke

Not to make to fine a point but we (polyexs) distinguish between interview and interrogation.  An interview is conducted with a view toward obtaining information and should never be confrontational.  An interrogation is conducted with a view toward obtaining a confession and is necessarily confrontational.  So we interview in the pretest and transition into interrogation if DI in post test.

George W. Maschke wrote on May 27^th, 2008 at 5:58am:


Nothing could be further from the truth.  The test that takes the planning and preparation is the CQT, not the GKT/CIT.  The GKT/CIT is much easier and quicker to prepare for and administer.  I can easily have that test completed within 60-90 minutes after having first been informed that a test is requested.  With the CQT, that time period is at least doubled.  The GKT/CIT is certainly my chosen technique, but due to impediments (release of information to the public or a potential examinee) prevents the use of that technique in most cases.  Release of information to the press is a decision that law enforcement makes.  An agency can easily withhold any information they see fit.  Even though we live in a society with free press that does not require specific details be released.  

The Japanese are a people where shame is very prevailent in their society. Their country has a very high suicide rate.  Do you think this may have something to do with their success in using the GKT?  Just curious.

cat wrote on May 28^th, 2008 at 8:25pm:


Cat,   

the Japanese are a very proud and socially oriented people.  In short, personal responsibility to the greater (social) good is more important than the individual benefit.  Something (generally speaking) we as Americans, gave away about 40 years ago.

It is not about shame, it is about respect towards others and its relationship to the overall social order.  This has more to do with it than your suggested gullibility, through shame conditioning.

My opinion!

Sackett