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matsukawa8 New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: May 9^th, 2008	Re: Don't Know The Exact Number Reply #15 - May 12^th, 2008 at 4:16pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I think alcohol use is a more threatening vice than marijuana, but regardless, for these type jobs, I would say that if you smoke dope a couple times a year it is not a big deal. I'd just like to see more progressive or "enlightened" thinking than I perceive in the hiring process. An individual who has smoked MJ infrequently in his life should not be disqualified. I'd like to see all of Congress and the President and his cabinet/advisors be polygraphed about their "drug" use if it's such a threat, danger, or immoral behavior/serious character flaw.


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sackett Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 347 Joined: Jan 31^st, 2008	Re: Don't Know The Exact Number Reply #16 - May 12^th, 2008 at 9:05pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	matsukawa8, yours is the exact rationalization I have been talking about in the past. It doesn't matter that you think marijuana is no big deal. Or that you feel alcohol is a bigger vice. It matters ONLY that the dept or agency you're applying for, does. Thanks for helping me make my previous points. Sackett


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nopolycop Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 383 Joined: Oct 20^th, 2007	Re: Don't Know The Exact Number Reply #17 - May 12^th, 2008 at 9:22pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	In my opinion, it is the willingness to commit illegal acts for personal gain/pleasure (marijauna use) that is the issue. Alcohol is legal, pot is not.

	"Although the degree of reliability of polygraph evidence may depend upon a variety of identifiable factors, there is simply no way to know in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's Conclusion is accurate, because certain doubts and uncertainties plague even the best polygraph exams." (Justice Clarence Thomas writing in United States v. Scheffer, 523 U.S. 303, 118 S.Ct. 1261, 140 L.Ed.2d 413, 1998.)
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sackett Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 347 Joined: Jan 31^st, 2008	Re: Don't Know The Exact Number Reply #18 - May 16^th, 2008 at 9:21pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	nopolycop wrote on May 12^th, 2008 at 9:22pm: In my opinion, it is the willingness to commit illegal acts for personal gain/pleasure (marijauna use) that is the issue. Alcohol is legal, pot is not. "n.p.c." I'm astounded. I actually agree with you. But, I would also add that it is the willingness of the applicant to ignore illegal or improper (i.e. reportable) behavior that is being called into question, as well. Sackett


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nopolycop Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 383 Joined: Oct 20^th, 2007	Re: Don't Know The Exact Number Reply #19 - May 17^th, 2008 at 3:55am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	sackett wrote on May 16^th, 2008 at 9:21pm: nopolycop wrote on May 12^th, 2008 at 9:22pm: In my opinion, it is the willingness to commit illegal acts for personal gain/pleasure (marijauna use) that is the issue. Alcohol is legal, pot is not. "n.p.c." I'm astounded. I actually agree with you. But, I would also add that it is the willingness of the applicant to ignore illegal or improper (i.e. reportable) behavior that is being called into question, as well. Sackett You are coming around...

	"Although the degree of reliability of polygraph evidence may depend upon a variety of identifiable factors, there is simply no way to know in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's Conclusion is accurate, because certain doubts and uncertainties plague even the best polygraph exams." (Justice Clarence Thomas writing in United States v. Scheffer, 523 U.S. 303, 118 S.Ct. 1261, 140 L.Ed.2d 413, 1998.)
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sackett Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 347 Joined: Jan 31^st, 2008	Re: Don't Know The Exact Number Reply #20 - May 17^th, 2008 at 5:28am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	nopolycop wrote on May 17^th, 2008 at 3:55am: sackett wrote on May 16^th, 2008 at 9:21pm: nopolycop wrote on May 12^th, 2008 at 9:22pm: In my opinion, it is the willingness to commit illegal acts for personal gain/pleasure (marijauna use) that is the issue. Alcohol is legal, pot is not. "n.p.c." I'm astounded. I actually agree with you. But, I would also add that it is the willingness of the applicant to ignore illegal or improper (i.e. reportable) behavior that is being called into question, as well. Sackett You are coming around... Naw!


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