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Re: FBI Rejection Letter
Reply #15 - Jul 13th, 2008 at 2:42am
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Dear Goofbal,

Write a certified return receipt letter to the address of the "not acceptable parameters" letter.  At this point, you should request another examination if you wish to pursue the job. Even if you are not interested, you should make a point to contest the results and write your congressman about it.  These actions will most likely have no effect on getting a job with the FBI but will help in getting a clearance in another agency when they question your FBI application.

The FBI finds it fully acceptable to have a failure ratio of two applicants out of three with the polygraph pre-screening process.  They have offered almost 1,200 conditional letters of employment to college grads or grads to be IAs with the end results of trying to get about 400 or so on-board.

Yes, the craziness and complete faith in the FBI for polygraph pre-screening continues.  Two security clearances are destroyed for every one applicant that passes.  Those who are cited as "not being within acceptable parameters" are kept from jobs that require "polyraph" related security clearances.  American justice at its best.

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Reply #16 - Jul 20th, 2008 at 11:06pm
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Hello Fair Chance,
I will defintely be writing an appeal letter.  However my question becomes the following:  If I was processed out of two different states for the FBI, which Congressman would I write?  Would it be the congressman in the state where I failed the polygraph or in the state I resided in the longest?
  
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Reply #17 - Jul 22nd, 2008 at 1:09pm
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Where you vote.
  

"Although the degree of reliability of polygraph evidence may depend upon a variety of identifiable factors, there is simply no way to know in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's Conclusion is accurate, because certain doubts and uncertainties plague even the best polygraph exams."  (Justice Clarence Thomas writing in United States v. Scheffer, 523 U.S. 303, 118 S.Ct. 1261, 140 L.Ed.2d 413, 1998.)
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Reply #18 - Jul 22nd, 2008 at 10:29pm
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I got the same letter and called my applicant coordinator about the letter. She told me I have been deemed deceptive on my second polygraph. She also explained the new wording on their ding letter was meant to reduce the number of people requesting poly retests.

  
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Reply #19 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 8:53pm
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has anyone gotten the final word on this? i have the same letter and I am waiting for my privacy act to come back, but I am very confused about the wording.
  
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Reply #20 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 2:22am
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Sounds to me like you didn't get the job because they found someone else that was either more qualified or that made a better impression on them or both.

Think about it; you're competing against many highly qualified applicants for a position that's in very high demand.

The FBI isn't the only gig in town you know. Besides, they didn't say that you couldn't ever apply again or that you were disqualified.

I know it must be disappointing but, don't you have a backup plan? What good fed doesn't have a good backup plan?

Think your way through it and try something else or try again later.

Good luck.
  
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Reply #21 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 4:37am
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Sounds to me like you didn't get the job because they found someone else that was either more qualified or that made a better impression on them or both.


Sounds to me like you didn't read the rejection letter he posted.

It specifically stated that passing the polygraph was a requirement and that he did not pass it, therefore did not get the job.

He could have been the most qualified candidate of the past decade and be the reincarnation of J. Edgar (girdle and all) , but unless his polygraph was "within acceptable parameters", he would not have been hired.

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Reply #22 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 10:27pm
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I too have received the dreaded thin letter  Suitability denial based on personal conduct.  I'm still awaiting my FOIA request so I can get all the details.  I actually passed the poly and my BI started, but I don't think it finished.  There is something the FBI found out during the BI that drew attention. My position was the Special Agent (SA) position.  Is there a way I can appeal a suitability denail?  Am I allowed to reapply to be an SA in the future?   Stupid FBI.
  
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Reply #23 - May 15th, 2011 at 6:51pm
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Does anyone know if my FBI rejection, or the fact that I filed an FOIA request and plan to appeal, will affect me getting a job at other government agencies?
  
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Reply #24 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 7:00pm
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devastated2today wrote on Apr 16th, 2008 at 3:44am:
I applied and was granted a conditional job offer with the FBI as an intelligence analyst. I moved through the entire process without any problems. However, on April 15 2008, the FBI sent me notification that it was rescinding the offer. Here is the contents of the letter:
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This is to advise you of the status of your application for a position with the FBI.

Your application was reviewed along with those of other applicants. I regret to inform you that after careful consideration of the requirements for FBI employment, you were not selected. As a result, we must rescind our Conditional Job Offer. In making this decision, we conducted an objective assessment of the information available to us and the needs of our organization. The choice between the many qualified candidates is a difficult one, and I regret that we are unable to offer you a more favorable decision.

Our action to rescind your Conditional Job Offer does not consitute a security denial. On future security applications and forms you may affirm, insofar as it relates to this section, you were not denied a security clearance.

Thank you for your interest in the FBI. We wish you well in your future endeavors. [/size][/i]
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As you can see, the FBI provided no reason for rescinding my application. It alludes to the fact that I wasn't selected out of many applications, but this step was conducted at the beginning of the process. As a result of my selection, I only needed to pass the latter stages which include polygraph test, drug test, and background investigation.

What do you guys think?



It suspiciously resembles one of the boilerplate rejection letters that the CIA uses! Sad
  

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Reply #25 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 7:01pm
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I too have received the dreaded thin letter  Suitability denial based on personal conduct.  I'm still awaiting my FOIA request so I can get all the details.  I actually passed the poly and my BI started, but I don't think it finished.  There is something the FBI found out during the BI that drew attention. My position was the Special Agent (SA) position.  Is there a way I can appeal a suitability denail?  Am I allowed to reapply to be an SA in the future?   Stupid FBI.


Not unlike my experience with the stupid CIA! Angry
  

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Reply #26 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 7:03pm
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Sounds to me like you didn't get the job because they found someone else that was either more qualified or that made a better impression on them or both.

Think about it; you're competing against many highly qualified applicants for a position that's in very high demand.

The FBI isn't the only gig in town you know. Besides, they didn't say that you couldn't ever apply again or that you were disqualified.

I know it must be disappointing but, don't you have a backup plan? What good fed doesn't have a good backup plan?

Think your way through it and try something else or try again later.

Good luck.

That's one lesson I finally learned, the hard way! Angry
  

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Reply #27 - May 1st, 2016 at 10:38pm
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God your in such an idiot
  
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Reply #28 - May 1st, 2016 at 10:40pm
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I'm agent251 BIA
  
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I'm agent251 BIA

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