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daisy2008 Ex Member	CIA process - poly + interview Mar 25^th, 2008 at 7:48pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I took two poly exams last summer. They were scheduled about two weeks apart. I heard nothing for about six months when I was asked to come back for a personal interview. It was a one on one type thing although there were surely unseen participants. It has been three months since the interview. Still nothing. I have never done anything criminal, not even a speeding ticket. I have no history of drug or alcohol use. I am a solid member of my community. What could be the issue?


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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: CIA process - poly + interview Reply #1 - Mar 25^th, 2008 at 10:06pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: I have never done anything criminal, not even a speeding ticket. I have no history of drug or alcohol use. I am a solid member of my community. What could be the issue? Undecided That doesn't matter. You can be truthful on the polygraph, and still end up with a "fail" or "inconclusive". The purpose of a preemployment test at the intel agencies is NOT to ask you a set of questions and test for the veracity of your answers. The purpose is to get you TALKING. To see what they can get you to admit to. They are counting on your gullibility and belief that the test is accurate. They want you to question your own mind and say to yourself: "Gee, I THINK I'm telling the truth, but maybe there IS something I'm withholding that I just can't remember!" Don't fall for it! Only you know whether you answered truthfully. If you did, then end of story! The National Academy of Sciences estimates that for every person who is legitimately failed (True Positive), there are probably a hundred "False positives". People falsely accused of being deceptive. Typically, they will say you're having trouble with this or that question, then ask you to speculate as to why you'd be having trouble with this or that question. Did they in your case? TC
	« Last Edit: Mar 25^th, 2008 at 10:24pm by T.M. Cullen »
	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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nopolycop Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 383 Joined: Oct 20^th, 2007	Re: CIA process - poly + interview Reply #2 - Mar 26^th, 2008 at 7:13pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	It sounds like you received a favorable opinion of at least the last polygrapher as to your truthfulness, or they wouldn't have had you come back for an interview. Daisy, this is the Federal Govt. you are dealing with here. There is no rhyme nor reason as to why they do what they do. They may have 10 openings and a hundred applicants, and you were simply weeded out through natural selection. After your personal interview, you may not have told them what they wanted to hear. Call your contact and ask what your status is.

	"Although the degree of reliability of polygraph evidence may depend upon a variety of identifiable factors, there is simply no way to know in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's Conclusion is accurate, because certain doubts and uncertainties plague even the best polygraph exams." (Justice Clarence Thomas writing in United States v. Scheffer, 523 U.S. 303, 118 S.Ct. 1261, 140 L.Ed.2d 413, 1998.)
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TheNoLieGuy4U Senior User Offline Posts: 97 Joined: Nov 7^th, 2004	Re: CIA process - poly + interview Reply #3 - Mar 26^th, 2008 at 11:51pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Hi Daisy2008, In reading your posting it would appear that you are internalizing this. It may well be that unknown to you expected funding did not come through for the jobs advertised, or budget cuts delayed hiring. I'm sure there must be an insider who could tell you that, or it might be discoverable from public records in budgets. Also, they almost always don't put all of their eggs in one basket, and test more folks than there are openings. You might be the MOST competative for the job in one time frame, and based on unemployment (high or low) in your area, NOT AS competative at another time. Don't assume that there must be something negative about you. If you want the job keep appyling, and as well to the competing agencies out there too. Stay Positive, Attitude Counts for alot !!!!


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T.M. Cullen God Member Offline Posts: 858 Location: Hawaii Joined: Dec 5^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: CIA process - poly + interview Reply #4 - Mar 27^th, 2008 at 4:05am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I think Daisy flew the coop.

	"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)." Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University
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Indiana73 User Offline Posts: 33 Joined: Jan 9^th, 2007	Re: CIA process - poly + interview Reply #5 - Apr 3^rd, 2008 at 12:31pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	When I applied for the FBI, it took six months from may application to hear from them and have an interview, and another six months before they had the poly and security interview. They work in "six months." Constantly. If you haven't heard anything after 6 months from now, then you didn't get it. Don't call. The CIA says specifically on their job site "do not call."


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AnonymousFool New User Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Apr 27^th, 2007	Re: CIA process - poly + interview Reply #6 - Apr 9^th, 2008 at 11:48am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. Like many people seeking employment in LE or government work, we are searching the web and sites like this to find answers. The fact that you had a personal interview after your poly's is actually in your favor. I have seen many people be denied without the benefit of a one on one after their poly's. It took me well over a year before I received noticed that cleared. I would just hold tight, hope for the best and plan an exit strategy in case you don't. Good Luck


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