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xenonman God Member Banned Offline May sarin, ricin, and variola major befall Langley Posts: 680 Location: WI USA Joined: Dec 14^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Can they make me take a polygraph??? Reply #60 - May 24^th, 2016 at 5:09pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	xenonman wrote on Jun 10^th, 2013 at 1:06am: One can NEVER "prove" their innocence to the cops. If they mention a polygraph, tell them what they should do with it.

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Beachbabe Guest	Re: Can they make me take a CVSA?? Reply #61 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:01pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I filed out a police report of my medication had been stolen from me and I signed a paper saying everything I said was the truth and now I got a call saying they want me to come in and take a CVSA test down at the station. What if the test says I failed it when I am actually telling the truth? I have bad nerves anyways around cops. I don't want to take the test and I don't have the money to hire a laywer but main question since I signed that form that said I said everything was the truth of what I was saying am I going to be forced to take this CVSA test anyways? Please help quick I need to know what to do in this type of situation! The guy told the cops I was selling the pills to him which I wasn't he just stole them and is trying to make me out to be the bad guy so he gets off the hook what should I do?


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quickfix Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 371 Joined: Jan 15^th, 2006	Re: Can they make me take a polygraph??? Reply #62 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:08pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Confess.


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xenonman God Member Banned Offline May sarin, ricin, and variola major befall Langley Posts: 680 Location: WI USA Joined: Dec 14^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Can they make me take a polygraph??? Reply #63 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:16pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: what should I do? Once you have been charged (if that happens), contact the public defender in your jurisdiction ASAP. Take NO tests of any kind. Once LE has "determined" that you're guilty, they are going to use all their resources to push for your arrest and eventual conviction!

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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6230 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: Can they make me take a polygraph??? Reply #64 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 4:23am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: I filed out a police report of my medication had been stolen from me and I signed a paper saying everything I said was the truth and now I got a call saying they want me to come in and take a CVSA test down at the station. What if the test says I failed it when I am actually telling the truth? I have bad nerves anyways around cops. I don't want to take the test and I don't have the money to hire a laywer but main question since I signed that form that said I said everything was the truth of what I was saying am I going to be forced to take this CVSA test anyways? Please help quick I need to know what to do in this type of situation! The guy told the cops I was selling the pills to him which I wasn't he just stole them and is trying to make me out to be the bad guy so he gets off the hook what should I do? In this situation you would be wise to refuse any demand that you submit to a CVSA "test" and, furthermore, to speak no further with the police unless you have a lawyer with you. Computer Voice Stress Analysis (CVSA) is junk science invented by a huckster. It is used by police as a pretext for interrogating suspects without a lawyer present. The outcome may very well be a scripted part of the interrogation plan. (The interrogator will tell you you failed and badger you for a confession, using the "test" results as leverage.) For more about the charlatan who created CVSA see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr3E_2KTxI0 For more about why you should not speak with the police at all, let alone submit to an interrogation masquerading as "test," see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

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Ex Member God Member Offline Posts: 710 Joined: Dec 9^th, 2012	Re: Can they make me take a polygraph??? Reply #65 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 7:55pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: I filed out a police report of my medication had been stolen from me and I signed a paper saying everything I said was the truth What you omitted seems to be key to your situation. What kind of drug was it? Was it oxycodone or some other drug which has a high value on the black market? Your use of passive voice is interesting, "had been stolen." Who stole it? How did the thief get access to it? burglary?, purse/backpack snatching? or? Did you file the police report immediately upon noticing the medication was stolen?---or only after someone else had gotten into trouble with the police? If the police suspect you may have been pushing your prescription medications, then George is right, you need a lawyer, your doctor too.
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Wandersmann Very Senior User Offline Posts: 228 Joined: Jun 2^nd, 2015	Re: Can they make me take a polygraph??? Reply #66 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 9:18pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Ex Member wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 7:55pm: If the police suspect you may have been pushing your prescription medications, then George is right, you need a lawyer, your doctor too. Better yet, let's just polygraph the doctor. If he doesn't pass the polygraph then he loses his license to practice medicine. That is exactly what happens to honest patriots in the intelligence community every day. Let's spread this fun around. Everyone in our society needs to experience it. Then it will be outlawed for sure.


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xenonman God Member Banned Offline May sarin, ricin, and variola major befall Langley Posts: 680 Location: WI USA Joined: Dec 14^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Can they make me take a polygraph??? Reply #67 - Mar 28^th, 2017 at 3:52am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Wandersmann wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 9:18pm: Better yet, let's just polygraph the doctor. If he doesn't pass the polygraph then he loses his license to practice medicine. I'm sure that the AMA would never allow that to happen.

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Wandersmann Very Senior User Offline Posts: 228 Joined: Jun 2^nd, 2015	Re: Can they make me take a polygraph??? Reply #68 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 1:24am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	xenonman wrote on Mar 28^th, 2017 at 3:52am: I'm sure that the AMA would never allow that to happen. You're right Xenonman. The people running the AMA had married parents that taught them right from wrong and the virtue of loyalty going both ways in an organization, unlike the reptiles that run our government.


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