NotGuilty1,

 Sorry, I forgot the rest !!!!

For years they had been victims of scams and non scientific examples on why they could not be counted as equals. I am sure that many of them have been told "you know you simply DON"T get it YOUR way!!

Not by Me, or those with my thinking !!!


I know the comparision is ment to make one think. But.. of course why do that when we have been trained to use the hocus-pocus machine.

  There is no Hocus Pocus to human physiology as it is engrained in us all   ANS = PNS/SNS .  You don't have to reinvent the wheel with each human being.  The test if fair and up front with no surpises.  That you did not enjoy it or like being a suspect is irrelevant. 


If your so called "examiners" met their "test" you, my friend would not be here along with your pro poly possy trying to perpetuate the lie that polys some how detect lies.

I am not a member of any pro poly possy, and am here to speak for myself.  When you say "Met Their Test", I can only assume you mean the bait and switch being offered here in regard to detection of countermeasures.  I wonder why any group would submit itself to another who reserves the rightt to be both judge and jury, when their minds have already been made up.  From what I have read here, all the reasonable people agree that technology only gets better with time, and that research studies over time have show the ability only getting better as the database of experience widens.  Such is true of Medicine, Aviation, and perhaps whatever business you find yourself in as well.  

The test working well for those comfirmed has nothing to do with the tests ability to dectect truthfull statements. They simply did not react to the questions for whatever reasons.

FOR WHATEVER REASONS ???   In the case of government hirng, I think they will place their bet on the lower risk person with my tax dollars and the publics ,  Thank You Very Much !!!!  In the case of specific issue crime testing, suspects are persued where the evidence leads, and proper unbiased questions are used in validated formats.  They don't have to invent that each time.  

Furthermore, I am not looking for a job I have a very successfull business. 
I was accused of a crime I had nothing to do with and the machine I was told said that I was being deceptive in some of my answers. Of course I was never told which answers.

Clearly then, from this statement, you write from an incomplete knowledge about the case overall. 

Now to you and your ilk that may not be a big deal but to some one like myself, who has been honest all my life. The fact that I was being called a lier weighed heavy on me.

You don't know anything about me to say I'm of "ilk", and I regard the civil rights of everyone a big deal.  That it weighed heavy on you or not is not the primary concern here.  Your civil rights were NOT violated from what you have written. 

Also, I now know that if for any reason I would have to submitt to one of your scam tests again ( not that I would again willingly) the fact that I would have to disclose a previous failed chart pretty much tags me as a lier.

Again, a broad assumption that exists in your mind only.  Under circumstances you perhaps can not imagine, you might find yourself going to an Attorney Client Priv. exam in your own best interest, rather than a Police exam out of necessity as are most tests. There are defense attorneys who request such tests you know. 

Lastly, You and the poly world DO NOT have the right to use unscientific tests in criminal trials ...wonder why?? And your right to use the in employment is coming to an end too. Soon I hope.

  Think again now !!!  State by State those decisions are made by the legislatures and case law.  New Mexico for example has open admissability in criminal trials, and you know what, the conviction rate is no different than in States that don't have that.  Certain federal courts allow for polygraph expert evidence, and much of the time it is to clear someone.  You assume the negative each time as if this technology ONLY seeks to convict.  You miss half the mission statement or purpose of it all.  Did you think nobody EVER passed as Truthful ? 

 You say "It Don't Make Sense !" .  NO !!  It makes sense to those who invest the time to understand it all who can make sense of it.  Like good men and women who serve their country in Federal capacities or law enforcement, or the pragmatic private sector.  They take it very seriously and seek TRUTH, and while that Truth may not be convenient to some, they follow where it leads and act on it.  You must own a pet store or something, as you repeat the mantras well that line these posts like a parrot.  Nobody here I have read says it is all perfect, but is the best we have, and good men and women do their best with ongoing improvements as time passes.  That is the simple Truth.  Got It ?  Got Truth ?  

notguilty1
I can not tell you why you did not pass your poly, but I will tell you that most of my known false positives have been examiner error.  Either I misconstructed a question. made an unwarrented assumption based on my understanding of the case facts. or simply misread the charts.   Fortunately most of my mistakes have been rectified by a retest with a different examiner.