Correction to previous post:

"I am suggesting people..." should read "I am not suggesting people..."

SanchoPanza wrote on Jan 7^th, 2008 at 5:33pm:

If CMs don't work then you would not be on this site.

Interesting opinion ChrisMcphee33   especially coming from someone who as never taken a polygraph test or USED COUNTERMEASURES and is only HOPING his planned countermeasures work, because when  they DON'T WORK. he may NEVER WORK IN LAW ENFORCMENT. 
Why are you so worried that someone might cut and paste one of your previous posts? Surely you aren't afraid of your own words. 
"suggesting people lie"  perhaps a freudian slip?

Sancho Panza, I find it interesteing how you try and get your message across and put ideas in peoples heads...look at the words that are in CAPS:

USED COUNTERMEASURES
HOPING
DON'T WORK
NEVER WORK IN LAW ENFORCMENT

This goes along with what I said about trying to scare uneducated people. You count on people having doubt.  PEOPLE should NOT have DOUBT...using COUNTERMEASURES is SMART.

Your comparing a polygraph test to cardiac surgery and language translation? We are talking about a person relying on a bp machine to tell if you are lying or not...not complicated science.

Of course I will take the test, I have no choice if I want this job. I am, and will be quite confident because I am well educated, I have prepared myself, and I know the examiner is just a person trying to get me to confess to what a bad person I am. I am not just crossing my fingers and hoping they will work, I know that answering the questions while using mental counter measures is the smartest thing I can do to get past a process that is far from perfect.

Are you a polygrapher? Did you have to take a polygraph test to get your job? If they made you take one to keep your job, a job which you obviously have a passion for..which is great...would you be nervous?

chrismcphee33 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2008 at 6:48pm:


Before you sit down for the polygraph, ask the polygrapher what chance there is that you can tell the absolute truth, but yet have his opinion reflect that he believes you are not truthful?  Because, in reality, one cannot PASS or FAIL a polygraph, although those are the words commonly used.  What occurs is the polygrapher makes an educated guess as to your truthfulness.

For last polygraph I took, I did exactly that.  The examiner told me about 90%, which I felt was a reasonable answer, given I already knew what the answer should be.  I then said, "Well, with that in mind, let's get to it."

Sancho, you are avoiding my question...I am genuinly interested to know.

Did you have to take a polygraph test to get your job? If they made you take one to keep your job, a job which you obviously have a passion for..which is great...would you be nervous?

CP33 
I have taken polygraph tests  and yes I was nervous. However, I have an extremely strong sense of honor and integrity (unlike some exhibited here I might add) that would and did prevent me from lying and cheating just to get a job. Once again this appears foreign to some here. Based on your previous statements this group includes you. 

I, for one, would not want a job that I had to lie or cheat to get and I find it difficult to understand why anyone would want a job they had to lie or cheat to get. You and I obviously disagree about that. My position on that subject isn’t likely to change.

There is something fundamentally wrong with those who endorse lying and cheating as a justifiable means to obtain a position of trust knowing that if they are successful they will be required to swear an oath promising to be trustworthy, truthful and honest. It is wrong there is no way that it can be right and I don’t care who else or how many are willing to prostitute their integrity for personal gain or status, it will never be right. 

Had I failed a polygraph test, I would not build a website or co-write a book that repeatedly tells the reader it is OK to lie and deliberately conceal information as well as offering suggestions regarding ways and means to attempt conceal criminal activity in order to cheat the testing process, nor would I appear on such a website trying to tell people that cheating on a polygraph test is OK because I didn’t get a job I thought I deserved. 

I am learning that trying to explain honor to the dishonorable, honesty to the dishonest, and trust to the untrustworthy is a bit like trying to explain sound to someone born deaf or color to someone born blind, They just lack a frame of reference for the discussion.

Sancho Panza