D.Taylor
I have talk to my PO and therapist concerning my full cycle; however, I can tell now that you are not able to go the full cycle who lying.   

Nevertheless, I appreicate your thoughtfulness of SO and your make believe tools to punish those SO who are compliance with their Tx by bring whats happen in the lab to the public interest.  This SO will not be silent.

EJohnson wrote on Dec 11^th, 2007 at 2:17pm:


allow me to paraphrase
Now how can we argue with that? I think we are all indebted to UJ here for clearly stating what had to be said. And I'm glad the children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish...but it expressed a courage that is little seen in this day and age. - Olsen Johnson  Blazing Saddles

Sancho Panza

noMegusto,
I am not asking you to care about me.  That's a fact.  It's obvious, "[I am] not looking for an avenue to make sure [I] pass [my] poly", and
in your confuse analyze do "[you]  believe in SOs are not able to change [or] some are able to control their desires"...such a confuse analyzer.

And yes, I too have "seen, know first hand the harm, and pain [my] desires has caused others".  However, your interview along with your pc (paleolithic cranium) could not even analyze your own confuse scoring subject(s) some can't and some can control their desires.

Therefore, I stand by your reason "to give [me] the benefit of doubt" to telling about the decitful "analyzers [who are] having different codes on scoring a subject" who truthfulness are facing demons and consequences base on a poly's lie....analyze this score.

     

Nomegusto, I can't help but think that for some reason Underjustice is suffering from so much tension he cannot use proper tense. I futher find his post a bit [overbracketed]...  (parenthetically speaking)

Never the less I think if we give him a sufficient opportunity to organize and reflect upon his thoughts before posting we may indeed learn what he is trying to say.

Sancho Panza
Eternal Optimist

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I need a better explanation for that one. How can two questions scored NDI based on the response level as defined by the control questions suddenly be scored as DI because the third question garnered a DI score based on it's response level again as defined by the control questions?
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Well Mr. IDon'tLikeIt, who gives a horse's a** about your useless opinions?
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Truly sad. You read suspects' statements and decide if they're being truthful? And yet your ability to spell and construct proper sentences looks like something a 6th-grader would be ashamed of. I bet your Sergeant truly hates reading your reports
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Are we all supposed to somehow be impressed by that? I'm certainly not. Just means you can't get a real job.
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Maybe he shouldn't be. But last time I looked this board fit neither description.
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Notice you fail to include a number for those states. I personally know several hundred sex offenders on parole who are allowed on the Internet. They naturally are subject to random searches of their computer to see where they've been. They have other restrictions (against contact with minors for example) that apply at the grocery store, their front yard, and of course the Internet. That's all the PO needs. There are no minors here as far as I know.
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Your complete and utter arrogance is mind-boggling. Probation and parole conditions are not finite entities. They're defined by sentencing courts and parole boards, often on a case-by-case basis. I'm beginning to wonder if you aren't more narcissistic than you claim the sex offenders are.
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And now you're saying that because he Googled "polygraph question" he obviously must be frequenting kids chat rooms and kiddie-porn trading forums as well? Thats some pretty stretched-out logic.
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Why not, Ms. Taylor? I'm here. Was here years ago while on supervision too (BTW my PO had FULL knowledge of my presence here and had no problem with it at all. Go figure.) I didn't come here because I failed a poly or wanted t olearn how to pass one. I came here to tell my story of how I thoroughly debunked your idiotic "protect the children" test. BEFORE I ever heard about this site or read George's book. Bo countermeasures for me. Just the truth, ma'am. But the "truth" was not the tangible thing the examiner thought it was, now was it. Turns out I lied on the entire exam and he believed every word. Why? Because like you, he does it to line his pockets. He does it because the laws have basically taken away his ability to earn a living since the poly has limited usages in the private sector these days. I see no reason to believe your reasons are any different. Answer me this. If you didn't do PSOT, what WOULD you do?
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Same drivel, different examiner. If what George offers here is useless and the guilty offender will fail anyway, how can you say he is helping them? Shouldn't you say he is hurting them?
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Hunter, do you believe in free speech? Freedom of religion? Son of a gun. I thought so. Me too. So it's a proud day for you, because sex offenders agree with you about Constitutional rights
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UnderJustice came here AFTER having his finding of truthfulness reversed to deception without valid reason. So how can you blame this site for that?
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You're as arrogant as that other clown. Must run in the polygraph examiner family. I spent TEN YEARS on supervision and never once did my PO have a problem with me frequenting this forum.
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Why? This isn't an "Internet chat room". And you have no reason to believe he has been in any chat rooms. But what you DO know is that if you sit here and sow seeds of doubt into his head as to whether or not this is a chat room or a bulletin board, he'll be nervous and confused at that next examination as to how he should answer. Thus giving your colleague an opportunity to say he was deceptive or inconclusive and thus keep him coming back for more examinations. 
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And that statement Sarge speaks volumes about you and your integrity. My hat is off to you. Some may say "look, the sex offenders even like you". I'll nip that in the bud right here by saying that I don't know Sarge. And no doubt we have differing opinions on many things. But I do RESPECT him for those opinions and the way he conducts himself.
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All sex offenders in most states? Or most sex offenders in all states? Or some sex offenders in some states? Your arrogance is showing again. For one thing there is a difference between "sex offender" and "sex offender on state or Federal supervision". The former have no such requirement. For another, most states require polygraphs "as a part of the treatment program". When treatment is finished, so are the polygraphs. In my state a treatment program for an offender runs anywhere between 6 months and 3 years. Some offenders are never in it long enough to even get a polygraph because they're annual. There are thousands of sex offenders on state supervision in my state that haven't seen a polygraph in 5+ years. Funny thing. Even though they are deprived of that invaluable toll to keep them offense-free, 97% of those offenders are somehow doing exactly that. Remaining offense-free. Go figure.
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Yeah, Kim and her two-state study of less than 200 offenders that does not definitively say the polygraph is responsible for the lower rate. Matter of fact, the study shows little if any difference between the two states using the poly and the 3rd "control" state that did not. For example you can split hairs and say that 5 out of 60 is "better" than 5 out of 70 but when you get down to it that's a statistically insignificant difference.
Gotta go. I grow weary of the garbage spewed around here by narcissistic polygraph examiners

You know what I find the most upsetting over this, is the complete ignorance in here that is exactly what the problem with america is. 

First off, not all sex offenders are raping little kids. 

Not ALL offenders are here to try to beat the system, but rather those who are desperate to find any positive information for someone in their situation and happen upon this site because of all the traffic and ridiculous petty arguements to the point where google reconizes the relevancy of the site and ranks it higher, therefor by all the polygraphers coming in here trying to so call "prevent" all of the sexual predators from violating conditions and reoffending, they are in fact helping the ones who are not good people and who are in fact looking to decieve their polygraph tests. So way to keep the engine going. Fantastic work. 

For those who comment on how disgusting all the offenders are, without knowing the exact case or person, just simply shows another aspect of the polygraph that is not scientific, it's called the human factor. Your hatred for sex offenders, and passion to put them further down and continued isolation, just shows how many of the unprofessional polygraphers can use their profession to give false reports to their p.o and/or therapist. For those who use their power illegally, for shame, and I can not wait for you to lose your career. 

As for internet access, further showing the ignorance of the people who post here. There are things called safety contracts, and there are things called individualized sentencing. Some have internet restrictions, some have alcohol and drug restrictions, some have no contact with any minor, some have no contact with a specific sex and/or age range. Some even with internet restriction are allowed to access the internet using software that prevents pornographic material or sites that allow contact to minors. Lastly, it's all up to the convicted, the therapist, and the probation officer, on what restrictions they have, don't have, will have, or had initially. 

Way to go everyone. Feel proud of how ignorant you are, nothing but fuel to the cause instead of using your education, passion, and anger to further prevention. I am disgusted to be an american.

Tyr,

I've been visiting this board for quite awhile.  The polygraphers I've met, both online and in the examination room are amongst the most arrogant people I've ever met.  They know more than the scientific community!  And if your reputation has been smeared by their bogus test, and voice your complaint, then your are just a ranting whiner who needs to "take your spanking and get on with your life".  Karma baby, karma.

You can review the posts of some of the more pathological polyliars on this board.  You might find it interesting and instructive as a professional in field of psychology.   They seem to think they know more than Phil Zimbardo, The National Academy of Sciences...etc.  Actually they don't, and they know they don't, but will still post for months in a vain attempt to defend polygraphy.  Then, they finally give up and resort to slandering the board owner accusing him of aiding terrorists and child molesters.

TC

Donna.Taylor wrote on Dec 9^th, 2007 at 8:07pm:


If this person has paid with their own money for their internet account, then they are legally entitled to use it.

The problem has always been with extreme economic libertarians who preach endlessly in the media about the rights of private ownership and big business to do whatever they want on and with their own property.  But, of course, all those who promulgate this rhetoric ultimately mean only to protect those with the most ownership and the most economic power. Their philosophy does absolutely nothing to help those who don't already have power and money and property to gain property.

Hence, all these conservatives and those who support them have NO right to complain about sex offenders or anyone shoving the same philosophies back into their faces.

If Comcast or Yahoo or whoever chooses not to allow this person use their services, then the worst that can be done is they can exercise THEIR property rights to ban this person from their services.

No judge or cop or court has the legal authority to interfere with this person's legal commerce and kidnap them and hold them hostage. That would be terrorism.

A vegan sex-offender who votes for Ralph Nader or Socialist is 100x better than a non-sex-offender religionist or social-conservative extreme-libertarian-economist who hypocritically eats meat.

Whether either type of person "passes" or "fails" a polygraph makes absolutely NO difference in the moral character of tht person.

I have no interest in helping ANY meat-eating Demopublicrat-voter who hypocritically preaches "responsibility" and "self-reliance" get medical treatment. I cheer when they have all their money and property taken away.

1 year in prison is much worse torture than anything anyone suffers on the outside.  I can say that objectively as a person who has not even been held hostage in prison yet nor been arrested.