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Re: Heart Conditions and Polygraphs
Reply #15 - Mar 19th, 2020 at 2:30pm
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Dan Mangan wrote on Mar 18th, 2020 at 2:29pm:
John Castellano, I have faced this problem many times, especially when I ran PCSOT exams.

An ethical examiner (please, skip the jokes) will attempt to run enough charts to obtain a sufficient number of scoreable spots, that is to say, spots that are free of distortions.

If that threshold is not met, the official outcome of the test is "no opinion." The examiner's report should list any known (or claimed) conditions that could influence the collection of data, or have any meaningful bearing on the examinee's overall suitability as a polygraph test-taker.

If you are obligated to take a polygraph, say, as part of supervision or treatment, it is highly unlikely that you will be given a free pass.



I feel your pain Dan, I know how hard it is – in fact it’s absolutely impossible – to try to make sense out of a procedure that is absolutely nonsensical and is based on a total outright fraud. The polygraph does not work as a lie detector, it has never worked as a lie detector and I don’t give a damn how many charts you run, it still doesn’t alter that fact – as you well know – facts are very stubborn things.
  

I have been fighting the thugs and charlatans in the polygraph industry for forty years.  I tell about my crusade against the insidious Orwellian polygraph industry in my book FALSE CONFESSIONS - THE TRUE STORY OF DOUG WILLIAMS' CRUSADE AGAINST THE ORWELLIAN POLYGRAPH INDUSTRY.  Please visit my website POLYGRAPH.COM and follow me on TWITTER @DougWilliams_PG


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Reply #16 - Mar 20th, 2020 at 2:15am
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I and two others were accused of stealing computers from a state agency.  We were asked to take a polygraph.  The first examiner said he could not do it based upon my medical condition included in my post below. The second examiner was a woman who worked for the same agency. She said no problem,she can work around it.

I am in a wheel chair as I do IT trouble shooting of the servers and datacomm.


In looking on the internet I found your site.  My neighbor said to get a doctors excuse?

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An arrhythmia is a problem with the rate or rhythm of your heartbeat. It means that your heart beats too quickly, too slowly, or with an irregular pattern. When the heart beats faster than normal, it is called tachycardia. When the heart beats too slowly, it is called bradycardia. The most common type of arrhythmia is atrial fibrillation, which causes an irregular and fast heart beat.

Many factors can affect your heart's rhythm, such as having had a heart attack, smoking, congenital heart defects, and stress. Some substances or medicines may also cause arrhythmias. 

Symptoms of arrhythmias include
•Fast or slow heart beat
•Skipping beats
•Lightheadedness or dizziness
•Chest pain
•Shortness of breath 
•Sweating 

Your doctor can run tests to find out if you have an arrhythmia. Treatment to restore a normal heart rhythm may include medicines, an implantable cardioverter-defibrillator (ICD) or pacemaker, or sometimes surgery
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 20th, 2020 at 6:20pm
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Thanks. I already have a pacemaker. I was told this morning I was to be fired if I do not take a polygraph.   
I will wait till they fire me. Then go to a lawyer and sue them!!
  
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Re: Heart Conditions and Polygraphs
Reply #18 - Mar 26th, 2020 at 11:01am
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I didn't thought about heart conditions and polygraphs connection to be honest. It's an interesting topic. I have a neighbour next to my property in Sicily here who was supposed to pass polygraph this week. I will ask him about his experience as he had a surgery on a heart about 5 years ago.
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Reply #19 - Jul 19th, 2020 at 8:53am
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Searched through APA and many other sites but nowhere it says that Heart disease etc along with Beta-blockers are contraindications to polygraph.
Can anyone point me out to those official sources?
Bz otherwise it looks like lots of hot air.
  
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Reply #20 - Apr 10th, 2023 at 1:37pm
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I have atrial fibrilation (AFIB) as well as a patent foramen ovale.  I also have taken many polygraphs due to employment -- the poly interpreter said that the graph indicated that deception was indicated when giving my name and confirming the location of the poly.  But the government filed them away as deception indicated without further elaboration.  I take medication to attempt to keep the afib under control but it still spikes on occasion, usually without any precursor.  Sometimes the government agency ignored the poly and I kept my employment, sometimes the government agency believed that I was in league with ISIS, drug cartels and was present in Dallas in 1963 (I was 13 at the time) but know the second shooter and was relegated to working in classroom supply.  I served from Viet Nam through Desert Storm.  Polygraphs may be a tool but not 'THE' tool to determine truth.  I also have PTSD and that reflects in my attitude toward REMFs.
  
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