Hi all, I have a few questions regarding CM's and polygraph testing. I scheduled the test for a few weeks from now and I have read the chapter 3 and 4 in the PDF 5 or 6 times... 

I plan on employing the toungue biting and apnea + amplitude CM's to ensure that I pass...I am paying for this test out of my own pocket  and it is being done privately with my lawyer and a private tester so this can only benefit me, if I dont pass than it cant possibly hurt me in any way which is the great news...If I do indeed pass than my lawyer can bring this to the judge/prosecutor's attention. When asnswering CQ's I plan on answering yes/no than after exhalation, stop breathing for 5 seconds in conjunction with biting my toungue and anal contractions(if theres no butt sensor)  and after the 5 seconds of not breathing to speed up my breathing for 10-15 seconds and than after 15 seconds elapses continue my normal breathing pattern...Does this sound like a good game plan? If not, what are some suggestions that will help me pass this thing? Thanks in advance for any suggestions/comments are much appreciated...

Interesting, thanks for the perspective...I don't see how taking this test could possibly put me in a bad position...If I fail than whoopty, waste of $750..moneys not really an issue, and no one will know the outcome besides my lawyer and I..If I pass than its very hard for a judge or prosecutor to not take the test into consideration...They have already offered me a plea to a misdemeanor, however ideally I want this to just disappear with an ACD or probation...Although most jobs dont ask anything more than "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" I'd much prefer a clean slate all together, know what I mean? Worst case I wind up with a misdemeanor...Best case scenario, never take it to trial and have the judge throws it out (giving me a ACD or probation)  because as is, they don't have a case - If i were to pass a lie detector thats pretty substantial, and the judge will have to consider it when making a decision

In regards to the seroquel, I wasn't seriously considering taking it just wanted to see if there was anything to it, I would in all honesty have a hard time keeping awake during the test...I take 25mg and it knocks me out cold, my PCP tried rx'ing me everything else and nothing worked except seroquel for some reason...I have had sleep problems all my life, and since I quit smoking many years ago i've had even more trouble, its inherent in my family

What exactly do you mean by 'it wont impress anyone'? Are you inferring that they will easily spot me implementing such techniques?

Thanks a bunch for the response/insight, your opinion is really valued and I will consider everything you have said. However, I am not withholding (much) information at all, theres 1 or 2 things I am concerned about (past drug use & sale in my teens, current  (legal) prescribed drug use) ...In lie tests when the person has a drug charge, are there not many CQ's? Is it mostly r/i? Or will it be a pretty standard you think? Remember, this is being done privately - I suggested this to my lawyer and he is friends /has a good relationship with the tester...If I fail it will have no adverse effects the court/judge/prosecutor will never see it, if I pass than it could really help...

Haha, thanks very much for the kind words I appreciate it more than you could imagine! The thing is i'm not 100% innocent, theres a grey area because I have things I prefer to hide in regards to the allegation, I have done what they are accusing me of in the past, however in this specific incident I am innocent and haven't partook in this activity in over a year. And even than it was a very rare thing that I'd do once in a blue moon when drunk @ a party.However in my teens I did it all the time...

I apologize but I cant tell if your being sarcastic, are you? Are those 3 cm's overkilling it? Should I only use 1 or 2 or does combining 2 or 3 work?

Paradiddle wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2007 at 4:09am:


I followed your advice and was falsely accused of deception by an FBI polygrapher and falsely accused of using countermeasures (I didn't even know what they were) by an LAPD polygrapher.

By the way, the polygraph countermeasures described in The Lie Behind the Lie Detector are not without some scientific support. In peer-reviewed studies by Charles Honts and others (citations and abstracts provided in the bibliography of TLBTLD), some 50% of programmed guilty examinees passed the polygraph after receiving a maximum of 30 minutes of instruction.

Really now guys, to compare your applicant screening poly experiences with this "poster's" single issue lawyer risk assessment test is a stretch. I just heard the theme from Schindler's List play when I read your posts. This last Q and A was like a game of tee-ball---and George was holding the ball. You need to get up earlier.

Thanks for the advice guys I really appreciate it. Do you think that those 3 CM's are over killing it? I really want to pass this thing, i've been working my butt off the past 3 years of college and I want to goto law school and if I get a misdemeanor it could really have a negative effect on my job future.