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Reply #30 - Sep 25th, 2007 at 1:03am
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policeHopeful,

I think you've displayed more wisdom and maturity than the various polygraphers who have condemned you here:
  • palerider, who posted disinformation about polygraph countermeasures -- a tacit admission that he has little confidence in the polygraph community's ability to detect them;
  • Dragon Lady, who implied that you are a "sex offender";
  • Paradiddle, who seems to have fallen down his own slippery slope of logic to lose all sense of proportion;
  • Wonder Woman, who is also "concerned" about you.

While applicants for positions of public trust have an ethical obligation to answer relevant questions truthfully, the polygraph suite is not a confessional, and applicants are under no obligation to reveal impertinent details of their lives about which they may be embarrassed or ashamed. As I mentioned earlier, the indiscretion you mentioned is the subject of a control question (not a relevant one) commonly asked by no less a law enforcement agency than the U.S. Secret Service. You would be wise to keep it to yourself.
  

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Reply #31 - Sep 25th, 2007 at 1:22am
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Paradiddle wrote on Sep 24th, 2007 at 8:06pm:
[quote author=policeHopeful link=1190318876/15#24 date=1190662865]"what if the dog were a 5 year old girl, " Are you suggesting that I would want to molest children? You are a sick FUCK! I believe child molestors should be given the death penalty. You are so fucking clueless. I would agree with you about some of your post. I believe the polygraph is a wonderful way of keeping bad people from getting into lawenforcement. On the otherhand how is it fair? I mean people who are actually in real postions of power are not required to take a polygraph and in most cases is forbidden by law to require one. Members of the senate and congress are not subjected to these. Judges and even Supreme court judges do not take them. My god a person who is elected to the presidency of the united states is not subjected to them. It's not often that a police officer will come into contact with a child, but people who work with them everyday and allday such as teachers,doctors and daycare personnel are not even subjected to polygraphs. So paradiddle your arguement is unfair and your opinion holds no water.




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Reply #32 - Sep 25th, 2007 at 2:09am
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Paradiddle wrote on Sep 25th, 2007 at 1:22am:
Uh, yeah. "Maturity and wisdom" according to George Maschke.


I observed only that policeHopeful has displayed more wisdom and maturity than you and your fellow polygraphers who have posted in this thread. You set the bar quite low.
  

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Reply #33 - Sep 25th, 2007 at 6:57am
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Paradiddle wrote on Sep 24th, 2007 at 2:49pm:
OK Serge, what if the cohort was 17? 18? 20? ----where do you draw the distinction between natural male adolescent mischief and deviant behavior? †What if the dog were a horse? ----or worse yet, what if the dog were a 5 year old girl, and the applicant were just trying a shocking distraction (which is very common.) What if the 15 yr old boy penally penetrated the animal----is that just silliness, or narcissistic paraphilia behavior?

In war, people come to the defense of percieved victims in order to increase their forces----often times at the peril of credibility. In other words, you defend someone who you haven't the foggiest idea what sort of individual you defend. When it comes to sex addicts, sexual fixations, and the sexually violent, no background check or conversations with old schoolmates will do. Your hatred for the polygraph seems to have blinded you to this fact. Polygraph, although both weak and strong, has strengths in areas where nothing else measures up. Much to the embarrassment of law enforcement officers everwhere, the same personality attributes that make for great officers is also unfortunately, the same psycho-dynamics as those of many rapists. Type A personality. You would do well to be extremely cautious in defending sexual activities that you may or may not have criminological expertise in. Dragon Lady is quite correct in her comments regarding profiles of sexual paraphilia indicators.

regards, Paradiddle

"What if" questions are often pointless and tangential.  I believe they are in this case.

The original poster said a dog licked his genitals once when he was fifteen.  That is pretty all we know about this person and his activities.  My response was reasonable.  I don't believe yours was.
  

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Reply #34 - Sep 26th, 2007 at 7:40pm
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thanks George and sarge for giving me a fair shake.
  
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