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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6211 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Polygrapher Ed Gelb Removes Educational References from Resume Sep 12^th, 2007 at 12:57pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Some four years ago, AntiPolygraph.org confirmed that Los Angeles polygraph operator Edward I. Gelb, who styles himself as a Ph.D. in marketing his services, never received a doctoral degree from an accredited university. Last year, I filed an ethics complaint against Gelb with the American Polygraph Association, which declined to discipline Gelb for his fakery. Nonetheless, it appears that Gelb has now removed references to his educational background from his official resume (if not from his website, where he continues to refer to himself as "Dr. Edward Gelb, Ph.D."). The website Big Head DC has made public Gelb's report of a polygraph examination he administered on 22 August 2007 to Wendy Ellis (AKA Wendy Cortez), a former New Orleans prostitute who claims to have been patronized by U.S. Senator David Vitter (R-LA). The report is attached to this post. Gelb's "Summary of Qualifications and Professional Experience," which appears as the last page, makes no reference to any university degrees, nor does he refer to himself as "Dr. Gelb" in it (as he did in his resume of 2002). Isn't it time you corrected your website, too, Mr. Gelb?

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Lethe Very Senior User Offline Posts: 233 Joined: Apr 15^th, 2007	Re: Polygrapher Ed Gelb Removes Educational References from Resume Reply #1 - Sep 20^th, 2007 at 9:17pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Is it actually even correct to write "Dr. Edward Gelb, Ph.D."? Isn't that sort of redundant, like saying "I'm Doctor Gelb and I have a doctorate"? Does anyone know?

	Is former APA President Skip Webb evil or just stupid? Is former APA President Ed Gelb an idiot or does the polygraph just not work? Did you know that polygrapher Sackett doesn't care about detecting deception to relevant questions?
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Sergeant1107 God Member Offline Posts: 730 Location: Connecticut, USA Joined: May 21^st, 2005 Gender:	Re: Polygrapher Ed Gelb Removes Educational References from Resume Reply #2 - Sep 21^st, 2007 at 2:13am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Lethe wrote on Sep 20^th, 2007 at 9:17pm: Is it actually even correct to write "Dr. Edward Gelb, Ph.D."? Isn't that sort of redundant, like saying "I'm Doctor Gelb and I have a doctorate"? Does anyone know? I thought so, too. I know for medical doctors they either refer to themselves as Dr. John Doe, or as John Doe, M.D.. I don't know of anyone who refers to themselves as Dr. John Doe, Doctor.

	Lorsque vous utilisez un argumentum ad hominem, tout le monde sait que vous êtes intellectuellement faillite.
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digithead Very Senior User Offline Posts: 150 Joined: Apr 11^th, 2006	Re: Polygrapher Ed Gelb Removes Educational References from Resume Reply #3 - Sep 21^st, 2007 at 2:26am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Sergeant1107 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2007 at 2:13am: Lethe wrote on Sep 20^th, 2007 at 9:17pm: Is it actually even correct to write "Dr. Edward Gelb, Ph.D."? Isn't that sort of redundant, like saying "I'm Doctor Gelb and I have a doctorate"? Does anyone know? I thought so, too. I know for medical doctors they either refer to themselves as Dr. John Doe, or as John Doe, M.D.. I don't know of anyone who refers to themselves as Dr. John Doe, Doctor. It's quite common to list your title and your degree especially in academia where there are several degrees that confer the title "Doctor." It helps others understand which type of doctorate you hold. Some examples: Dr. John Doe, Ph.D., which is a terminal research degree in most disciplines Dr. John Doe, Sc.D., also a terminal research degree equivalent to a Ph.D. Dr. John Doe, Psy.D., which is a professional psych degree rather than a research degree Dr. John Doe, M.D., medical doctorate, professional degree Dr. John Doe, J.D., juris doctorate, professional degree - rarely used this way Dr. John Doe, Pharm.D., pharmacy doctorate, professional degree Dr. John Doe, Ed.D., education doctorate, professional degree Dr. John Doe, D.P.H., public health doctorate, terminal research degree Dr. John Doe, D.P.A, public administration doctorate, terminal research degree This is not an exhaustive list... While I agree that it is somewhat pretentious and a little bit redundant to say Dr. John Doe, Ph.D. It serve its purpose... One other thing that I'd like to point out, in the hierarchy of academia the Ph.D./Sc.D. are the highest degree anyone can attain. M.D. and J.D. are considered professional degrees below the rank of a Ph.D.


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Lethe Very Senior User Offline Posts: 233 Joined: Apr 15^th, 2007	Re: Polygrapher Ed Gelb Removes Educational References from Resume Reply #4 - Sep 21^st, 2007 at 3:51am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Ah, thank you, digithead, for the explanation. That does make sense. Now, if only he had a real PhD and not a pretend one...

	Is former APA President Skip Webb evil or just stupid? Is former APA President Ed Gelb an idiot or does the polygraph just not work? Did you know that polygrapher Sackett doesn't care about detecting deception to relevant questions?
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1904 Ex Member	Re: Polygrapher Ed Gelb Removes Educational References from Resume Reply #5 - Sep 21^st, 2007 at 12:19pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	As the saying goes, it pays to advertise. 'Advertise' as in jazz yourself up. Sell the sizzle, not the steak. Thing is, the average polygrapher is just as guilty and the APA encouraged that behaviour in the first instance. We were told by our APA Instructors that having completed our 10 week courses, we were now 'Forensic Psychophysiologists' - that ranks right up there with the phony PhD scam. Hell, half of the twats cant even spell anything beyond 3 syllables. Most of them need 2 lines to write their 'letters' - ( I need at least 4 ) John Doe FP / Dr PhD / PSOT / Ph.D-DPA / BA -MGQT / Ph.D-ZOC / Dr - MQT / / Sc.D - POT & GKT / Dr APA


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