EosJupiter wrote on May 29^th, 2007 at 11:59pm:


Hi - Lets say it's a cleansing ritual. I have spent many years and loads of cash undergoing
basic p/g training, advanced training, refreshers etc in addition to acquiring several other DOD
technologies and techniques.

I have often been engaged in fierce argument with other p/g examiners when disputing their calls and then made it my personal quest to prove my findings - if they were different and often they were.

Too many p/g examiners sell their souls in order to get repeat business or to satisfy someone else's
suspicions. I never sold results and I pissed off a lot of people in doing so.

EG: " Please test these four subjects. We know that subject A did it, but we 'need to prove it' "
That type of statement is enough to motivate many p/g examiners to turn in a DI result notwithstanding
the scores achieved.

Since 1995, whenever I have administered an apparatus test (p/g or cvsa ) I have presented the
apparatus to convince the subject that the computer wizadry is finding him/her DI if that was the
result of my Statement and Kinesic Analysis. I have proven to myself, that SA and Kinesics is
the most powerful DOD tool. SA is also not a verifiable science, because it relies ultimately on a
confession or conviction to notch up accuracy points, but every time I have been involved in a
major fraud investigation, SA has led to a high rate of conviction. The fact is that it is not easy to lie
and subjects own words give them away. SA is wonderful stuff.

How's my stock doin ?

polycrap32123 wrote on May 24^th, 2007 at 1:15am:


Sorry it took me so long to respond.  I've been on vacation and I don't tend to visit here as much as I did in the past.  Selfishly, since I have had success in using CMs multiple times, it's become a non-issue for me and has lost my interest.

I prefer to use tongue biting, but I'm always prepared to use sphincter contractions if both sides of my face are visible, or mental CM if there is a sensor pad.  Some of my previous posts talk specifically about CMs that I have used in the past.

I would not tell anybody to use breathing CMs unless they have some experience in breath control, as I do.  I lock in a pattern of rate and depth before the chart begins, and I stick with it until the test is completely done.  I actually count 1-mississippi, 2, 3, 4 in,  and 1, 2, 3, 4 out.  When I answer Yes or No, the pattern is naturally interrupted and I resume it from the point I left off.  If it is a CQ, I stop counting, answer the question, and resume after an appropriate amount of time – depending on the pace of the test 5-20 seconds.
My goal is not to use a breathing CM, but rather to make it a negligible point by being precisely consistent.  I don’t know for certain that THIS method of breathing has any impact on the outcome at all, but my personal experience says it works for me.

Again, I have used tongue biting every time, have never been accused of it, and have always passed.

EosJupiter wrote on May 30^th, 2007 at 5:07pm:



Mmm. I attended a lecture of Stan Walters. Have 3 of his books I think. Plus his little pocketbook guide. Stan is a showman. Knowledgeable, but just a tad too OTT. But, as you said, a worthwhile read. I am an avaricious (?) reader of any DOD material. It is amazing how much there is out there. A lot of interesting material but also a lot of BS - I'm trying to remember a large, hard bound coffee table size book i bought on SA - by some clown - it was total utter crap. Too lazy to walk to my study right now - think he was a Wendell somebody. What a plonker. Tried to reinvent SA (CBCA) with a dash of KA. Dont buy it, unless you're short of a paperweight.

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1904,

You seem a bit "disgruntled."  Have you considered a different line of work??

Regards,

Nonombre

TwoBlock,

Thanks for the compliment. !!  I do believe that some of our resident polygraphers may be a little upset that "1904" has decided to really live up to the "Dedicated to Truth" motto. About time we get someone with the knowlege and Huevos Grande to tell it like it is. It beats hiding behind a message board that only polygraphers get to view and comment. To this end I am impressed.

Regards ....

1904,

Although I do not have any current plans to "break free" of my chosen profession, your post does interest me.  What calling have you now chosen to pursue (if you don't mind me asking?)

Nonombre

nonombre wrote on May 31^st, 2007 at 10:27pm:


Hi There,

In my spare time I write poetry. Some of my poetry has been published over the years. 
I am busy writing books at the mo - without giving away too much -  one is about how we inherit
more than just physical dna but also psychological dna - it would be classified as fiction with
a good splodge of humour. 

The other is a work of satire - lampooning politicians.

I bought into properties years back - a good investment that has produced rewards.

Are you pvt or fed ..?

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1904,

I have been a law enforcement examiner for awhile now.  I conduct pre-employment and criminal specific issue polygraph exams.  Truly the most fun I have had since kicking down doors on the drug team (in my much younger days).

I am sorry that polygraph turned out to not work out for you.  I truly hope your future efforts are fruitful and make sure to let us know about your book(s) once they are published.

Regards,

Nonombre