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Poll closed Question: If it is true that the Marston Polygraph Academy shortchanged students on hours of instruction and told them words to the effect of, "If you don't tell them (the American Polygraph Association), we won't either," how should the APA respond? (You don't have to be registered to vote in this poll.)
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The school's accreditation should be revoked and those responsible expelled from the APA.    
  48 (56.5%)
Accreditation should be revoked, but those responsible should be allowed to remain as members.    
  1 (1.2%)
Accreditation should be suspended, but only temporarily.    
  11 (12.9%)
The school should receive a warning but retain its accreditation.    
  10 (11.8%)
Even if the accusations are true, no action is warranted.    
  10 (11.8%)
Other (If you are a registered user, feel free to post your thoughts in this message thread).    
  5 (5.9%)




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Re: Complaint Against Marston Polygraph Academy
Reply #15 - Apr 3rd, 2008 at 12:26am
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dedicated2truth wrote on Sep 6th, 2007 at 8:43am:
The...truth is that the complaint against the Marston Polygraph Academy was fully confirmed, and the...truth is that the APA directors chose to sweep the problem under the rug. I am uploading the official report of inspection for all to see. These are the 4 main findings of fact:

First:
Marston Polygraph Academy is in clear violation of APA accreditation regulations governing
accurately scheduling and reporting school training schedule. All records indicate the school was
starting at 08:00AM and ending daily at 5:00 PM. These records do not accurately reflect the
school’s training schedule.

Secondly,
Marston Polygraph Academy is clear violation of APA accredited training attendance
requirements in that the students were not receiving required time limits of for basic polygraph
course instruction.

Third:
Most seriously, this inspector finds that the printed syllabus clearly misrepresents the actual
schedule to the detriment of the students and professional training, this inspector believes that a
fraud has been perpetuated on those relying on the accuracy of the school’s records and
representations. Representing that the Marston Polygraph Academy follows and adheres to APA
standards of basic polygraph training is misleading and untrue.

Fourth:
Regarding the statement alleged to have been made by personnel associated with the Marston
Polygraph Academy, “if you don’t tell we won’t either”. In a frank discussion with PI Lynch, he
states that through some discussion with the students, a statement in some way similar to the one
above may have been made but according to him, it was not meant in context as it now sounds
out of context. This inspector finds that in or out of context, the statement was inappropriate if it
in any way it referred to APA oversight authority.


As a polygraph examiner and APA member, I find this whole matter to be…..disturbing.  If the allegation was substantiated, and it appeared that it was based upon the on site inspection, then there should have been some form of sanction, such as a probationary period to ensure that the APA standards are being maintained.  A lot of my friends are APA members who have served in APA offices and I do not agree with how the APA handled this. 
  
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Re: Complaint Against Marston Polygraph Academy
Reply #16 - Apr 3rd, 2008 at 7:19pm
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I can agree with you "YD" the problem is that no matter what was issued by the APA, it would never be enough sanctions or punishment to fit those on this board.  

      I can see it now,

"After all that has been established and verified by the APA, they only went to the Marston school, pulled their charter and certification, burned the building to the ground and excommunicated it's graduates?  What kind of oversight is that???  APA is corrupt, the APA is corrupt!!!" 

Sheesh....

  
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Re: Complaint Against Marston Polygraph Academy
Reply #17 - Apr 3rd, 2008 at 8:21pm
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sackett wrote on Apr 3rd, 2008 at 7:19pm:
I can agree with you "YD" the problem is that no matter what was issued by the APA, it would never be enough sanctions or punishment to fit those on this board.  

      I can see it now,

"After all that has been established and verified by the APA, they only went to the Marston school, pulled their charter and certification, burned the building to the ground and excommunicated it's graduates?  What kind of oversight is that???  APA is corrupt, the APA is corrupt!!!" 

Sheesh....



Sackett,

You're continuing to rationalize that which I think you know, deep down, was a whitewash by the APA.
  

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Re: Complaint Against Marston Polygraph Academy
Reply #18 - Apr 4th, 2008 at 2:35am
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George, 

"Whitewashing" investigations happens daily at every level of society and government.  Politics, financial reasons, nepotism, etc are the factors behind it.  Why is this one so different?

As for my posting above, I was making the obvious and sad fact that no matter what "we" do; "you" will never be satisfied with our actions until we are all, as someone has suggested, handing out parking tickets for a living.

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Re: Complaint Against Marston Polygraph Academy
Reply #19 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:19pm
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Contact the State of California Department of Consumer's Affairs to launch a complaint, not APA. It appears based upon comments, the complaint is among the wrong doers. Can anyone elaborate? Also, if anyone did make a complaint with Consumer's Affairs, it is easy enough to verify.
  
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