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Oct 13th, 2006 at 6:25pm
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I've tried to verify some of the quotes found on this site because they are very powerful if true.  But, I can't find the source in many cases in order to independently verify them before quoting them myself.  In general, it would be nice if the site could have a reference page that points to where all the quotes come from and enough information to allow visitors to find those sources through independent means.  There are three in particular that I would like to verify for use ASAP.  If you could help me, I would greatly appreciate it.  Here they are:

"...the use of this highly flawed instrument should be radically curtailed."
           - former CIA Director R. James Woolsey


"[The CIA's] reliance on the polygraph is truly insane."
           - former CIA Director John M. Deutch


"I'm sorry I ever had any part in its development."
           - John Larson, invented the polygraph lie detector in 1921
  
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Reply #1 - Oct 13th, 2006 at 6:42pm
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glovertp wrote on Oct 13th, 2006 at 6:25pm:

"...the use of this highly flawed instrument should be radically curtailed."
           - former CIA Director R. James Woolsey


See:

http://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?board=Policy;action=display;num=...


Quote:
"[The CIA's] reliance on the polygraph is truly insane."
           - former CIA Director John M. Deutch


See Weiner, Tim. "Spies Wanted," New York Times, 24 January 1999.

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"I'm sorry I ever had any part in its development."
           - John Larson, invented the polygraph lie detector in 1921


See citation at p. 123 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector:

http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf
  

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Reply #2 - Oct 13th, 2006 at 11:18pm
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Thanks very much!  This is very helpful.  I've been putting together a small 'case' against lie detection for personal reasons and in order to increase it's credibility, I'm keeping my own opinions to a minimum - relying primarily on documented (and objective for the most part - at the very least credible) sources which I comment on and string together in a cohesive argument.  It's about 5 to 10 pages depending on how you separate each piece.  I'll share it with you if you would like.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 14th, 2006 at 6:52am
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I'd be happy to review your compilation. You're welcome to post it here, if you like, so that all may read it.
  

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