LieBabyCryBaby wrote on Sep 15
th, 2006 at 8:16pm:
Why would you come here and try to scare readers with, Oh if you DON'T read "The Lie Behind the Lie Detector" and follow its advice, you will fail and fail badly?
I haven't heard Eos or anyone else say that. They say, correctly, that coming here and learning what George has put out is a good idea. I am sure people with quick thinking and good logic have beaten the poly without George's help.
Quote:I don't need to scare anybody, EosJ. They are already scared when they come here. This site further feeds their fears...
That fear makes a person the lemming you wish them to be, CryBaby. It renders them susceptible to your lie that the poly can detect lies. It cannot; it is a fancy BFB machine. Only confessions can demonstrate lies through this method.
By the way, when I had read TLBTLD and learned it all, I went into subsequent polys much more relaxed. I used CM's without regret, and without fail. And I passed when I might well have not
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In fact, I cha cha'ed in and out with the lovely knowledge that I had beaten the machine and a polyboy who thought he was invincible. I don't think I would have otherwise, but righteousness was upheld when I did. There you go, one testimonial for George's site and against your position. I am sure I speak for many others.
Quote:You may ask, Where is the evidence that polygraphers can detect the countermeasures advocated on this site? Well, where are all the people who actually committed a serious criminal act and then passed the polygraph by following the advice on this site? Funny, but we don't hear from them, do we?
*Waves hand frantically*
Where IS the CM beef? Where's the beef? Show the studies, CryBaby. We asked you first
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Answering a question with a question isn't an affirmative answer at all.
No, I have not committed any serious criminal offense, but piddly stuff that someone could use to nitpick me out of my current job. So, ok, I haven't robbed anyone, but I passed notwithstanding some peccadilloes. Ones that should not count against a person. And you're hearing from me.
Quote:And if thousands of people come to this site, take the advice, and then pass the polygraph, why do none of them come on this site and admit that they actually passed the polygraph while lying their asses off with regard to relevant issues?
I have seen quite a few come here expressing thanks. I would not expect more than a few of the whole number to do so, though. Had I only 1 poly to deal with, I would have read the information here, passed, and -maybe- sent George a private note. I would not have bothered posting... why? I would have had to create an account, which takes 2 minutes that I would have rather used elsewhere on the WWW.
Quote:I believe that the advice on this site may serve as a placebo for the innocent, but nothing more. If it makes them feel better, that's fine and dandy, but I've seen their world come crashing down when they've been caught and disqualified.
Believe as you will, CryBaby. There's no placebo here; it's the real McCoy. My world has failed to crash down yet, and I used more than 1 suggestion from TLBTLD. If someone louses up their CM's, well, risk that or risk a false positive. I would rather lose having the reins in my hands. However, I don't go in planning to lose, and I have not.
I have also heard many reasons why you polyboys won't take Dr. Richardson's challenge. Why not be the man and do it? Don't make excuses- don't beg off because of lab this, or situation that. Excuses are like ani. Everyone has one, and most smell. If you can detect CM's, and you say you can at better than chance, do it.
You and your pals must hate the doc, he being a defector from the cause. Taking all that precious, apocryphal knowledge with him and handing it to the enemy like Benedict Arnold. Blowing the whistle.
While I think of it, please tell us all your opinion of EPPA. Good or bad? I know it cost you and your drinking buddies money. If you agree with it, why shouldn't it be applied across the board (please be specific)? Also, if you agree with the Act, why was it okay to use the poly in employment screening prior to its passage, or was that a mistake?
If you disagree with it, why? And why is your APA not trying its damnedest to get the act repealed for the greater good of mankind? Because, like the tobacco companies, you know that what you peddle is harmful. Big Tobacco got kicked off the TV in 1970, and to this day they have never challenged it. Why? Even though they would win, they know that they would be exposed yet again for the scoundrels they are.
Knowledge is power. I have the former, and I feel the latter. You and yours cannot pull the hood over my eyes, CryBaby. Please digest...