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collider New User Offline Posts: 10 Joined: Mar 4^th, 2006	Exotic countermeasures... Mar 4^th, 2006 at 3:46am	Print Post
	We all know the basics. Does anyone here know of any the more exotic/unknown ones, and be willing to share? Does that book "How to Sting the Polygraph?" contain any such information? Thanks in advance.


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Boston New User Offline Posts: 20 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2006	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #1 - Mar 6^th, 2006 at 6:05am	Print Post
	yea... it's real exotic..... it is called the TRUTH... wow how very exotic.


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6277 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #2 - Mar 6^th, 2006 at 8:48am	Print Post
	Boston wrote on Mar 6^th, 2006 at 6:05am: yea... it's real exotic..... it is called the TRUTH... wow how very exotic. Because polygraphy has no grounding in the scientific method, simply telling the truth is no guarantee that one will pass a polygraph. In fact, the more truthfully one answers the so-called "control" questions, the more likely one is to wrongly fail.

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Mr. Mystery Senior User Offline Posts: 99 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2006	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #3 - Mar 6^th, 2006 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	Boston wrote on Mar 6^th, 2006 at 6:05am: yea... it's real exotic..... it is called the TRUTH... wow how very exotic. Sure worked for me.


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Sergeant1107 God Member Offline Posts: 730 Location: Connecticut, USA Joined: May 21^st, 2005 Gender:	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #4 - Mar 6^th, 2006 at 3:54pm	Print Post
	Boston wrote on Mar 6^th, 2006 at 6:05am: yea... it's real exotic..... it is called the TRUTH... wow how very exotic. Using your method I failed my first three polygraphs even though I was being completely honest in all of them. I passed my fourth polygraph while giving all the same answers to all the same questions. It would be nice to think that telling the truth is all that is necessary to pass a polygraph. In my experience as well as many others on this board that is simply not true.

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mountainman New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: May 4^th, 2006	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #5 - May 4^th, 2006 at 6:46am	Print Post
	Why do people that advocate telling the truth on a poly visit this site to begin with??


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southb0ysd New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2006	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #6 - May 4^th, 2006 at 6:54am	Print Post
	For many reasons, for example I just started visiting this site because I wanted to know that the polygraph is all about and to have an idea on what to expect. Because I have just heard so many rumors about the polygraph.


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EosJupiter Especially Senior User Offline But of Course ... Posts: 483 Location: Always Out There ...... Joined: Feb 28^th, 2005	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #7 - May 4^th, 2006 at 7:04am	Print Post
	mountainman wrote on May 4^th, 2006 at 6:46am: Why do people that advocate telling the truth on a poly visit this site to begin with?? mountainman, The polygraphers come here to present there side of the issue. Albiet an extension of the lie that is the polygraph, but still an open forum for them to do so. They also try and undo any and all information on this site so they can perpetrate there voodoo and protect there jobs. This website is causing major pain across the board to all of the vaunted polygraph units. Regards ...

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Mr. Mystery Senior User Offline Posts: 99 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2006	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #8 - May 4^th, 2006 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	mountainman wrote on May 4^th, 2006 at 6:46am: Why do people that advocate telling the truth on a poly visit this site to begin with?? I'm not sure I understand your question. I've always advocated telling the truth during a polygraph. I'll also advise you to worry like hell if you get a question about lying to your mother at age 12. There are many people who tell the truth and fail polygraphs. Even polygrapher's own literature indicates around 80% accuracy in field studies. The same article argues for a two-step approach instead of the "kick to the curb" approach used by most federal agencies with the polygraph. Again, this is according to "The Polygraph in Personnel Screening" covered in the Handbook of Polygraphy Testing. If you start looking at the research produced by those outside the polygraph industry it becomes even more questionable.
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Mr. Mystery Senior User Offline Posts: 99 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2006	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #9 - May 4^th, 2006 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	EosJupiter wrote on May 4^th, 2006 at 7:04am: This website is causing major pain across the board to all of the vaunted polygraph units. Regards ... You got that right.


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retcopper Very Senior User Offline Posts: 192 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2005	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #10 - May 4^th, 2006 at 7:43pm	Print Post
	EOS/Mr.Mystery: Sorry to disappoint you but this site has not hampered my ability to administer polygrah exams.


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nolehce User Offline Posts: 36 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2004 Gender:	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #11 - May 4^th, 2006 at 9:37pm	Print Post
	Retcopper, really: "polygrah exams"?! Again, hard to have faith in a purported "lie detection professional" who cannot even spell the name of the "exam" he administers. Or does not even think highly enough of it to spell it correctly. Polygraphers have held job candidates to far higher standards in their sessions. You should at least get your spelling right, if only to show the rest of us that you take your craft the least bit seriously.


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EosJupiter Especially Senior User Offline But of Course ... Posts: 483 Location: Always Out There ...... Joined: Feb 28^th, 2005	Re: Exotic countermeasures... Reply #12 - May 6^th, 2006 at 9:29am	Print Post
	retcopper wrote on May 4^th, 2006 at 7:43pm: EOS/Mr.Mystery: Sorry to disappoint you but this site has not hampered my ability to administer polygrah exams. It may not hamper you, but I bet the information in the hands of your victims is beating you. Lets see how many people have you caught with countermeasures ?? Hmmmm Don't see you posting any major catches, and from past experience I know you would be in here gloating. And you may say you have ... but proof would go along way too .... So its either put up or shut up .... Regards ...

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