Mystery
I continue to be amused and charmed by your youth and sensitivity. I think I have been pretty even handed with you, and can certainly justify and explain anything I have said. If you think I am hurting polygraphers in some way by having a discussion of fairness or joking about your obvious youth and naivete' then good luck with the tooth fairy.
May I suggest, as someone who has truly been there and done that, that you develop a bit of a thicker skin and perhaps a sense of humor esp. if you want to work in law enforcement? The human circus is no place for the innocent.
And dont go maxing out moms credit card just yet on new FBI suits. since by your own admission you have tested for other agencies, and still seem to be available on the job market, there is something employers are hesitant about perhaps.  They might be looking for some experience to go with that student loan of yours...just a thought.  Im done with you, good luck in your chosen profession.  You have picked wisely.

Fair Chance-how about some help for this guy?

Fair Chance
Thanks for the personal clarification. Your balanced view has earned my respect and there is obvious truth in your posts, in contrast to the usual fodder on this site.

But, I was hoping you would give Mystery a realistic heads up about what he can expect, and his chances for success. I hear a little too much idealism in his posts which I fear is about ready to crash into the brick wall that you and I know too well of govt. ineptitude. You may of already done this however, and anyway its up to all of us to make our own way.

I was wondering, and feel free not to answer this, if you had any repercussions from the bureau ( I am making the assumption your now FBI) for posting here. It would of been pretty obvious who you were as I remember your candid past posts.  I think that topic could be of great interest to the folks posting here, right or wrong.  As we spoke a long time ago, I believe now more than ever that government uses the polygraph as a way to disqualify someone they find unexceptional rather than have to explain it with hard data. Of course this is just a theory, but what do you do with all these overqualified white males? easy; tell them they were not within acceptable limits on the polygraph!  The "re-test" seems designed simply to reinforce the first, and to appease the applicant.  When I hear 40-50% failure rates at various agencies, I know something else is afoot.

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I have never heard a definitive answer to these two questions: (1) does the FBI share a candidate's "not within acceptable parameters" results with CIA, DIA or NSA? *and* (2) What constitutes a "national records check?"

God knows I'd never again want to work for the FBI after what I went through with their condescension and ineptitude. But I still feel patriotic and might want to serve at another agency someday, polygraph bulls-it notwithstanding.

I would just find it hard to believe that all these agencies that "couldn't connect the dots" pre-9/11 would be able to arrive at an awareness amongst themselves that a candidate for one agency had "failed" a polygraph at another agency.

Can anyone shed definitive light on (1) and (2) above?