nolehce wrote on Apr 27^th, 2006 at 11:15pm:

Not intending to cut ahead of George, I'd like to cite two real-life incidents where the video tapes played a significant role.  In one instance, an examiner was reported by someone as behaving in an unethical manner.  The video tapes substantiated the allegation.  An additional review of past exam videos going back three months further revealed the examiner had been conducting the same unethical practice in virtually every exam.  The examiner's certification was revoked, and 
(s)he was fired.
In another instance, a female examinee provided a sworn statement alledging that the examiner required her to remove her blouse and brassiere so that he could properly attach the pneumograph tubes.  When the tape showed that no such conduct occurred, her civil service employment was promptly terminated.

Allegedliar:

As I stated before I strongly believe in the use of video/audio recordings of all poly sessions to back up any claims of misconduct on the part of examinee or examiner.  You don't believe in the accuracy of the polygraph and I respect that.  But poly and anti poly folks will amost always agree on the evidence provided by the tapes.

Fairchance:

You're right. The cost is minimal.  I can't believe  any agency would not utilize the tapes.

Have a good weekend.

OPP

if you're in DOD, whether mil or civ, then you know there are levels of sacrifice in everything done in service to the nation.  we're not in it for the money, there are more regs, rules, laws that apply than the normal citizen or even gov't employee that works a normal lazy cush job--you know the ones---you go to their desk for service and either either enjoying comp time, training, or gone home early.

we take these jobs on knowing the restrictions, knowing the reason for them and the higher standard.  i live with the perspective on life that i have nothing to hide and anyone can ask me anything anytime.  so nothing bothers me.  it's good you are honest with yourself to question whether this is what you want.

what you might consider, if they have not already ask you, is what would you do if a foreign and hostile intellgience agency seized one of your wife's relatives in an attempt to bribe, blackmail, or force you to work for them.  if you can stand and reason that they're either going to kill them or several others as well as put national security in jeopardy and select loyalty to our country and its security, then you should have no problem.  that is not to say it will be an easy decision or one that you'll second guess for a lifetime if the worst occurs.  again, it is a weight we CHOOSE or CHOOSE NOT to live with.

Read the following books and maybe it will help you decide:  By Way of Deception, Gideon's Spies, and Profits of War; all about the Isreali Mossad.  Also, recommend WIDOWS...has 3 authors, 2 with same name; difficult to find, but may also influence your decision.

C/I polys are easy and no problem if you have not done any of the things they ask; and if you have, you have an opportunity to explain and put in context.  the one that would be a flare is contact with foreign persons since your relatives would introduce you to other foreigners while visiting.  mind your P&Qs with them, don't talk anything of your job, take mental notes to report, get more info from them than they do you to help with your contact report, report on arrival back, and answer honestly.

i have had several undesired foreign "sales pitches" and it has not impacted my C/I poly.  reported all to proper authorities upon occurrance, reported all those and foreigners I come in contact with.

AND, WHOEVER PUT THE POLITICAL B.S. BELOW OPP'S QUESTION AND SATURATED HIS BLOGG IS A HAIRY, UNWIPED CHAFFING ASSHOLE.

- j

Kockstar,

  Screw you - I worked for NSA for many years, and now for the CIA.  Intel agencies require that immediate family members be US citizens.  My boss married a foreign national and had to get a, "letter of compelling need", in order to get his CIA clearance.  The first question, from recruiters with private contractors is, "are all your immediate family members US citizens ?". On my SF86, for the CIA, I had to list all of my immediate family members, plus our Parents, as US citizens.

Kockstar,
 
 Well, then debate it with: 
 
http://www.securityinstruction.com/ADR/dcid64/dcid64T.htm ;
 
Personnel Security Standards and Procedures Governing Eligibility for Access to Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) 
 
5. Personnel Security Standards. 
 
    a. The individual requiring access to SCI must be a US citizen. 
 
    b. The individual's immediate family must also be US citizens. 
 
6. Exceptions to Personnel Security Standards. 
 
c. Exceptions to the US citizenship requirement for individuals to be accessed to SCI and their immediate family members shall require certification of a compelling need. This exception should be based upon a specific national security requirement and a certification of compelling need. 

Screw you !

Kockstar,

  You are obviously not worth the time-of-day; you are probably a disgruntled polygrapher.  The point of the article, is that getting an exception is not easy, and I am sure that most private contractors would not be willing to go that route - thus, I would consider it, generally, to be a clearance killer.  My boss, even being a high-level program manager, had a difficult time getting cleared.  Think and say, as you may.  Yes, I am stupid, for playing into your hand...