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llkiop New User Offline Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2006	do they really work ??Please reply Mar 6^th, 2006 at 11:02pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I havent got any replys ... do the countermeasures really work ??? I havent really heard of any stories saying they do ......


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6230 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: do they really work ??Please reply Reply #1 - Mar 6^th, 2006 at 11:22pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Yes, countermeasures work. For documentation, see Chapter 4 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector and the sources cited there. As for the paucity of posts by countermeasure users, it stands to reason that most people who successfully employ countermeasures, especially those in post-conviction polygraph programs, would be prudent enough not to comment about it in a public forum such as this one.

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nonombre Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 334 Joined: Jun 18^th, 2005	Re: do they really work ??Please reply Reply #2 - Mar 7^th, 2006 at 3:57am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: Yes, countermeasures work. For documentation, see Chapter 4 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector and the sources cited there. As for the paucity of posts by countermeasure users, it stands to reason that most people who successfully employ countermeasures, especially those in post-conviction polygraph programs, would be prudent enough not to comment about it in a public forum such as this one. Or they tried and were caught... You feel "lucky?" 8)


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polyfool Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 311 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2005	Re: do they really work ??Please reply Reply #3 - Mar 7^th, 2006 at 4:19am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	nonombre wrote on Mar 7^th, 2006 at 3:57am: Or they tried and were caught... You feel "lucky?" 8) Nonombre, Were they truly caught or was the examiner, in your words, just "quite sure" they were using cms? There's a big difference between "quite sure" and solid proof.


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retcopper Very Senior User Offline Posts: 192 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2005	Re: do they really work ??Please reply Reply #4 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 7:47pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Caught: First you post and say you are tired of failing your poygraph exams and being called a liar, now you say here that you always pass "with flying colors".


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underlyingtruth Very Senior User Offline Posts: 123 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2006 Gender:	Re: do they really work ??Please reply Reply #5 - May 24^th, 2006 at 5:35pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Polygraphs lie. On more than one occasion, I have failed while telling the absolute truth. Countermeasures really work! I have passed several polygraphs using CMs, and I was actively lying about a minor probation infraction on one of them.


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supertim New User Offline Posts: 1 Location: United States of America Joined: Oct 13^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: do they really work ??Please reply Reply #6 - Oct 13^th, 2006 at 4:08pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Caught, George purports that CMs work, but fails to mention that most that are taking the polygraph have no experience with trying to employ CMs. If you are being truthful, there is no need to employ any "so called" CMs. Remember, a lot of things "work". I think even AMWAY "works" but there are only a few people in the world getting rich from it. T


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underlyingtruth Very Senior User Offline Posts: 123 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2006 Gender:	Re: do they really work ??Please reply Reply #7 - Nov 1^st, 2006 at 10:07am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	supertim wrote on Oct 13^th, 2006 at 4:08pm: George purports that CMs work, but fails to mention that most that are taking the polygraph have no experience with trying to employ CMs. If you are being truthful, there is no need to employ any "so called" CMs. Remember, a lot of things "work". I think even AMWAY "works" but there are only a few people in the world getting rich from it. You're missing the point supertim. If it is possible to fool a "scientific test" such as the polygraph, then it is not a reliable device. And your right... you're just as likely to get a reliable answer from a polygraph as you are to become a Diamond Direct in AMWAY.


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