Mr. Mystery,

Based on others' and my own experience, I believe you passed. Most instances of failure are accompanied with a confrontation or accusation in an attempt to extract a confession from the examinee. Considering yours was civil, and the maximum strain was a handful of polite inquiries as to "what was on your mind," I would wager you passed as well. Good luck.

Out of curiosity, can you recall the phrasing and number of questions you were asked? Were you too given the "card trick" during the pretest? I'm curious to compare the wealth of bureau experiences discussed on these boards (as well as my own) to one another. Thanks

No worries - best of luck and keep us updated.

Mr_Mystery - forgive me if I find these anecdotes a bit cryptic. What is the relation between the various persons (A,B,C), which controls were used, and the outcome?

Mr_Mystery,

I'm sorry to say it sounds like you indeed had an issue with one of the relevant questions on the FBI's polygraph test. Opinions or results are determined by the series, so failing a relevant, will get you a "deception indicated" on the entire series, just like being inconclusive on one question would show an INC for the entire series--there's no distinction. It sounds like there may be some question about your chart scoring, and the examiner was unsure as to how headquarters is going to handle it--inconclusive or deception indicated? FBI polygraphers do bluff examinees and lie to them. However, I don't think that behavior is typical ( in the FBI) unless the examinee indeed shows a reaction or reactions to one or more relevants. The fact that your examiner was asking you to tell him what was on your mind most likely means that you showed a reaction and he was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. It could be that you "failed" a question that applicants usually pass, such as in the national security portion? Not all polygraph examiners behave the same and therefore, not all yell and act like total jerks. It sounds like you got a  fair examiner--if such a thing exists considering he's using an unfair test. Or maybe he's not an over-achiever and doesn't bother getting all worked up in an effort to get a trophy admission/confession? Perhaps, he has doubts about the test's validity? Who knows? It's important to realize that the FBI doesn't care about an applicant's misdeeds that relate to the control questions. The agency's polygraph is designed to ONLY cover the relevants--suitability and security.  Problem is, it does a poor job of determining those. It could be that you'll be deemed INC and will have to be retested? I don't want to get you down, but I'd say you do have cause for concern with regards to the outcome of your test. Hope for the best, but prepare for the "not within acceptable parameters" letter. Just my opinion, maybe I'll be wrong, but that's my gut feeling. Sorry. Good luck to you.

collider wrote on Mar 4^th, 2006 at 3:48am:


Collider,

You're right. I assumed this to be the case, but as you point out, it may not be so.

Mr_Mystery,

For your sake, I hope the controls worried the hell out of you.

the unfortunate truth is that the control questions are there to identify the "innocent" or "good" examinees. the resp. to control questions of a passing examinee will be >> resp. to relevant Qs. at least that is my understanding--

bottom line about polys, while flawed produce far fewer false negatives than false positives - a situation, at least in the federal hiring context - most seem content with.