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JonApplePie New User Offline Posts: 1 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2006	Will this fail me for clearance? Feb 26^th, 2006 at 6:35pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	A few months from now i might be offered a job at a contractor for the NSA that deals with software programming. I will have to get a background check and be cleared for a Top Secret with SCI ( i belive thats the offical name). Because of that ill also have to take the lifestyle polygraph. The thing that worries me is a few months ago i was wrongly accused of shoplifting $22 of goods from a grocery store. Long story short i pleaded guilty to the charges in court so that i wouldnt have to pay a lawyer and go threw all the hassle , just to get out of a small charge like that. It was the first time i had ever gone to court or been charged with something, and my record is perfect before that. Im also young ( 22 years old ), so im afraid they will think im a punk that steals all the time or some crazy crap. will this automaticly disqulify me, or do they only care about spying, serious crimes, and drug use?


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Fair Chance God Member Offline Posts: 551 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2002	Re: Will this fail me for clearance? Reply #1 - Feb 26^th, 2006 at 6:54pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Dear JonApplePie, The best way to look at this is from the adjudicator mindset. You pled guilty to a $22.00 shoplifting charge. If you plead guilty, you are guilty. Stop using the old lines of "not wanting to pay a lawyer and go through all the hassle." Can I trust top secret information or software with a person who steals $22.00 of retail items. The main motive for stealing secrets is money and you would be easily bought. These are not my personal feelings about you but that is the way the system will think of you. Hopefully, in the future, if you keep your record and personal life clean for about five years, they would consider it an isolated event. If this happened recently, a clearance will be difficult at best. Regards.


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NSAreject Senior User Offline Posts: 91 Location: Maryland Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2001 Gender:	Re: Will this fail me for clearance? Reply #2 - Feb 26^th, 2006 at 10:50pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	JonApplePie, The DoD would probably grant you a clearance (the TS portion), as long as, you are totally honest with them, but the assholes at NSA (the SCI portion) may have a problem...


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alleycat1 New User Offline Posts: 5 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2006	Re: Will this fail me for clearance? Reply #3 - Nov 10^th, 2006 at 9:54pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Do I admit to drug use in my past for lapd poistion? There is no rule against it considering I have never been arrested? Alley


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theydeceivedme1 New User Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Jun 15^th, 2006	Re: Will this fail me for clearance? Reply #4 - Apr 14^th, 2007 at 11:02am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Take a look at this website. These are clearance decisions where the applicants had dirt on their records, so you will see a pattern and can learn alot from reading some of these cases. http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/ Bottom line, don't hide anything that they can find out by doing a credit check or criminal check on you. Recent theft crimes will probably get you denied.


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Sergeant1107 God Member Offline Posts: 730 Location: Connecticut, USA Joined: May 21^st, 2005 Gender:	Re: Will this fail me for clearance? Reply #5 - Apr 14^th, 2007 at 11:49am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	alleycat1 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2006 at 9:54pm: Do I admit to drug use in my past for lapd poistion? There is no rule against it considering I have never been arrested? Alley Yes, you should of course admit to it. Lying in order to obtain a job in law enforcement is a terrible way to start off a career. They will not only ask you if you have ever been arrested, they will also ask about past drug use. Even though the number of unethical and dishonest cops in this country is only a tiny percentage of the whole, it is more than enough. We don't need any more. Tell the truth and if your past behavior disqualifies you then move on to something else.

	Lorsque vous utilisez un argumentum ad hominem, tout le monde sait que vous êtes intellectuellement faillite.
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