Normal Topic sf86 Form going back 7 years? (Read 7056 times)
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Gerrymander
New User
*
Offline



Posts: 5
Joined: Feb 6th, 2006
sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Feb 8th, 2006 at 5:43am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
On the sf86 form, it asks if you were arrested in the past 7 years.  When I was a teenager, back in New York state, I had some bad fights w/ my parents and was arrested a few times, w/ no charges pressed ultimately; I talked to a lawyer, and he said that if I had been a youthful offender, it would show up in a background check.   I was never adjudicated as a youthful offender.  This was all over 7 years ago.  I have never been arrested since, never used drugs or had alcohol problems, or anything else other than 2 speeding tickets. 
 
I spoke to some military people on another forum, and they say that DSS can find anything, and that I should report everything.  However, truthfully, I could reply in the negative to the questions on the sf86 form (i.e. no felonies, no firearms charges, no drug charge, no arrests in the past 7 years, etc.).  Of course, I would report everything to the recruiter.   
 
My question is: when they only ask for 7 years back for merely arrests?  Will they find everything.  I could honestly say I haven't been arrested in over 7 years. 
« Last Edit: Feb 14th, 2006 at 6:23am by Gerrymander »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Gerrymander
New User
*
Offline



Posts: 5
Joined: Feb 6th, 2006
Re: sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Reply #1 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 6:21am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Any responses would be appreciated.  Thank you.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box EosJupiter
Especially Senior User
*****
Offline


But of Course ...

Posts: 483
Location: Always Out There ......
Joined: Feb 28th, 2005
Re: sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Reply #2 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 6:51am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
GerryMander, 

If its beyond 7 years then, its out of scope. But if you were held and cited by the police then by all means do put it on the sf86, because a police record is never out of scope. I may be against the polygraph, but I am totally for being honest when dealing with investigations where clearances and trust are involved. An honest thorough background check is always the right answer. 

Hope this helps ....  Regards
  

Theory into Reality !!
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Gerrymander
New User
*
Offline



Posts: 5
Joined: Feb 6th, 2006
Re: sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Reply #3 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 9:40am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Wouldn't that be answering the form incorrectly?  I mean, if I haven't been arrested in 7 years, and the form asks for the past 7 years, why should I list it?  Also, can't they just find out everything by contacting local law enforcement agencies?  The fact is that they can find out, but I would not be lying on the form if I didn't list anything.  I would tell the recruiter my history, though.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box EosJupiter
Especially Senior User
*****
Offline


But of Course ...

Posts: 483
Location: Always Out There ......
Joined: Feb 28th, 2005
Re: sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Reply #4 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 5:44pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Gerrymander,

Always answer the form 100% to what it wants for information. But again if you have a record they will find it. Its better to be up front on this then have some investigator dredge it up from your history. If its nothing more than the cops turning you over to your parents, for some youthly indiscretions. The odds are you don't have anytype of record. Best I got, and good luck. 

Regards .....
  

Theory into Reality !!
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box NSAreject
Senior User
***
Offline



Posts: 91
Location: Maryland
Joined: Apr 22nd, 2001
Gender: Male
Re: sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Reply #5 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 7:52pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Gerrymander,

  I agree 100% - you can lie to the polygraphers, but
TELL THE TRUTH on your SF86 (they will get you on,
"Personal Conduct", if you get caught lying).  I wouldn't
worry about, what you think are issues... Smiley

BTW,

  To the polygrapher, who thinks I should lose my
clearance, playing into your hand, I have never posted
anything classified on this site.  My loyalties are with the
rights of the American people, not some out-of-control 
agency that has databases full of USSID-18 violations
(and porn).  Look what you shits did to Russ Tice !
« Last Edit: Feb 14th, 2006 at 10:02pm by NSAreject »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Gerrymander
New User
*
Offline



Posts: 5
Joined: Feb 6th, 2006
Re: sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Reply #6 - Feb 15th, 2006 at 3:39am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
I guarantee you, I have NO intention of lying on the questions on the sf86.

These few incidents are the only blackmarks in my history.  During my youth, I was NEVER considered a disciplinary problem in school.  I got into 1 fight where I was provoked, and otherwise I stayed out of trouble.  I started feeling tired in my senior year of HS and suffered academically (I had moderate sleep apnea, not diagnosed until 4 years later--I am working out to lose weight to overcome that condition), and my parents used to get really upset; usually they are OK, but in those cases there was a lot of yelling/insults said, and I have a temper too, so some bad stuff happened.  Those problems are more or less gone now; I control my temper now, and have good relationships w/ my parents.  Anyway, I'll step off the soapbox now.

Thank you for the replies.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Johnn
Very Senior User
****
Offline



Posts: 116
Joined: Aug 29th, 2005
Re: sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Reply #7 - Feb 15th, 2006 at 6:53am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Gerrymander,
Why not just put an asterisk by the "have you ever been arrested" question, and make an explanation on the continuation form?   
I had to explain something myself about my credit that happened 10 years ago.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box polyfool
Especially Senior User
*****
Offline



Posts: 311
Joined: Feb 23rd, 2005
Re: sf86 Form going back 7 years?
Reply #8 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 5:09am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Gerrymander,

I  agree w/ Johnn. You're better off going out of your way to provide all the information that's asked even if it's outside the seven year scope.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
sf86 Form going back 7 years?

Please type the characters that appear in the image. The characters must be typed in the same order, and they are case-sensitive.
Open Preview Preview

You can resize the textbox by dragging the right or bottom border.
Insert Hyperlink Insert FTP Link Insert Image Insert E-mail Insert Media Insert Table Insert Table Row Insert Table Column Insert Horizontal Rule Insert Teletype Insert Code Insert Quote Edited Superscript Subscript Insert List /me - my name Insert Marquee Insert Timestamp No Parse
Bold Italicized Underline Insert Strikethrough Highlight
                       
Change Text Color
Insert Preformatted Text Left Align Centered Right Align
resize_wb
resize_hb







Max 200000 characters. Remaining characters:
Text size: pt
More Smilies
View All Smilies
Collapse additional features Collapse/Expand additional features Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Angry Sad Shocked Cool Huh Roll Eyes Tongue Embarrassed Lips Sealed Undecided Kiss Cry
Attachments More Attachments Allowed file types: txt doc docx ics psd pdf bmp jpe jpg jpeg gif png swf zip rar tar gz 7z odt ods mp3 mp4 wav avi mov 3gp html maff pgp gpg
Maximum Attachment size: 500000 KB
Attachment 1:
X