AntiPolygraph.org Message Board - TLBTLD and Doug Williams

(UTC)

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register

You can enhance your privacy when browsing and posting to this forum by using the free and open source Tor Browser and registering with a free, anonymous ProtonMail e-mail account. Registered users can exchange private messages with other registered users and receive notifications.

In addition, check out our SimpleX Chat-based chat room, which supports anonymous posting.

AntiPolygraph.org Message Board › Polygraph and CVSA Forums › The Lie Behind the Lie Detector › TLBTLD and Doug Williams

(Moderator: Administrator)

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

Pages: 1

Send Topic

TLBTLD and Doug Williams (Read 11049 times)

confusus New User Offline Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 22^nd, 2006	TLBTLD and Doug Williams Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 5:29pm	Print Post
	I have never taken a Poly, but I have done a lot of reading. I am convinced that TLBTLD seems to be a very good book. It does seem to mirror Mr. Williams book, and techniques. Does anyone have any thoughts on the similarities? Obviously, the Polygraphers have an extreme vested interest in keeping their profession. No one wants to lose their job, even if it is based on deceipt and intimidation. It pays the bills. C.F.


	IP Logged

George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6278 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: TLBTLD and Doug Williams Reply #1 - Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 5:35pm	Print Post
	Indeed, the countermeasures described in both AntiPolygraph.org's The Lie Behind the Lie Detector and Doug Williams's "How to Sting the Polygraph" are similar in that they entail augmenting reactions to "control" questions. There are no published scientific studies comparing the relative effectiveness of TLBTLD and "How to Sting the Polygraph," however, I believe that TLBTLD is better researched and documented and more informative than Mr. Williams's manual. Relevant past discussion threads you may wish to review include: "How to Sting the Polygraph" eBook (in which Doug Williams masqueraded as a satisfied customer to promote sales of his manual) A Response to Doug Williams Doug Williams Vs Antipolygraph.org does doug williams' book offer anything additional "how to sting the polygraph"

	George W. Maschke I am generally available in the chat room from 3 AM to 3 PM Eastern time. Signal Private Messenger: ap_org.01 SimpleX: click to contact me securely and anonymously E-mail: antipolygraph.org@protonmail.com Threema: A4PYDD5S Personal Statement: "Too Hot of a Potato"
	WWW IP Logged

confusus New User Offline Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 22^nd, 2006	Re: TLBTLD and Doug Williams Reply #2 - Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	Hey thanks George. I have to tell you I really respect what you are doing. It is kind of hipocritical for the LE Agencies and the Gov. in General to use the Polygraph. I mean after all they advocate "Honesty" and "Integrity" but will use lies, deciept and intimidation to take short cuts and get to the information that is more than likely B.S. Anyway, it takes a lot of bravery to do what you do and you deserve a lot of respect for that. C.F.


	IP Logged

WJ User Offline Posts: 30 Location: Washington D.C. Joined: Jul 14^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: TLBTLD and Doug Williams Reply #3 - Jan 7^th, 2008 at 4:30pm	Print Post
	I bought and purchased dougs book and the book from www.passapolygraph.com and they both were almost the same. However, passapolygraph.com seemed more up to date. It mentioned that the polygraph community is getting wise to showing a reaction to every question. It suggests that you only show a reaction to a few control questions.

	Counter-measures were easy.
	IP Logged

Pages: 1

Send Topic

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

« Board Index ‹ Board Top