TheNoLieGuy4U wrote on Mar 13
th, 2008 at 6:29am:
George,
Thank You for your quick response in regard to written materials. PART II; Have you participated in verbal conversations in Arabic or Farsi about the subject of polygraph countermeasures with middle eastern individuals either there in The Hauge, or elsewhere ?
I don't see how that is any business of yours.
Quote: In regard to your claim of my so called "Peppering" of my writings here, they really aren't that spicy. I prefer just plain old steak and potatoes truth, and in reality have asked you to consider whether or not you could see how your former breatheran in the Intel community could and do see that you went too far, and also that your timing was the worst possible in the world. Further, that if you had considered all of that you would see that your greatest victory of the polygraph you despise would have been that you possibly "Could Have" been hired anyway based on the needs of the nation you left behind.
I've hardly "left my nation behind." I'm a U.S. citizen. I return to the U.S. regularly, and will be returning permanently at the end of my overseas employment.
And you are mistaken in thinking that I co-founded AntiPolygraph.org out of embitterment over my personal plight. That's not the case. For four years after my FBI/LAPD polygraph experience, I kept silent and simply moved on. It was only much later, after learning that what happened to me was happening to many others that I felt compelled to speak publicly on polygraph policy. I don't desire a job with any intelligence agency, and would probably not accept one, if offered.
Quote: If I woke up tommorow and found a job in the paper I wanted to apply for, and it required I have a very special background clearance utilizing brain fingerprinting, and I was told I was not chosen, would my life stop mid stream ? NO !!! I would be no worse off than the day prior, just as you were able to finish your military reserve career. I would not then spend an inordinate amount of my time at the expense of having a wife, family, and a normal life because of brain fingerprinting equipment !!!!
But what if you were denied the job because of a pseudoscientific fraud like polygraph screening? And wrongly (and permanently) branded as a liar by your government to boot? To judge the honesty and integrity of people based on voodoo science that depends on the examiner lying to and otherwise deceiving the examinee is unacceptable in a civil society. Perhaps you cannot fathom this because you personally profit from this pseudoscientific fraud.
Quote: I am not your Judge or Jury about your oath and executed documents regarding both the spirit and binding measures those legal and moral and professional promises imply. As previously stated, I bow to the system for that, and wanted to give you a wake up call that you have come to the edge, or some may see you as having gone past. I have not advocated violence against you, and if you check that reference came from one of your own Anti-Poly cheerleaders.
Well, you've suggested that you think I have committed a crime worthy of the death penalty. In another thread
you wrote:
Quote:Your betrayal of the U.S. Intel community is more like that of the Rosenbergs who did so as zealots for change, and they were quite properly executed for treason. By the way Treason has no statute of limitations.
You continue:
Quote: I have merely pointed out to you that there are limits, and at some point a prosecutor looking at the totality of who you are, what / who you were, adn what you now represent; May determine that you 1. Have ongoing foreign national contacts with the very nation that is the number one backer of terrorism against the United States, and some of it's soldiers have in fact killed our men in Iraq. 2. That these relationships, beyond your U.N. work, have raised suspicion as to HOW the attempted compromising of a U.S. Intelligence tool is being carried out, as nobody seems to have the passion for it more than you. 3. That in our domestic front, you seek to compromise efforts to monitor and control the very worst of sex offenders who target our children, and who turn to YOU for assistance as not to be in their court ordered compliance.
The Means, Method(s), and Opportunity are the elements of proving any crime. A jury via a U.S. Court room, should a prosecutor take the case, may be the proper venue to decide this. It's not up to me, but rather those in power who choose to prioritize you or not. Just don't pretend you have not considered all of this before. As previously stated, I would settle for an administrative law judge to determine if you have earned a forfeiture of your military retirement. I place my trust that the right thing will be done in the end. Don't You ?
I suppose you're entitled to dream. I think you and too many polygraph operators confuse dissent for disloyalty, your personal interest for the public interest, and your job security for national security.
Quote: In closing let me say that I am greatful that you and I may have this site for point counter point, and that you have grown as a moderator in simply NOT banning me for introducing a new concept of thought to all of this, or shal we say a larger macro view of it.
AntiPolygraph.org has welcomed opposing viewpoints from the beginning. The same cannot be said of pro-polygraph websites such as PolygraphPlace.com.
Quote: I really don't feel a new thread is needed, as your Anti folks, and the Pro folks, and those of us with parallel interests seem to be doing fine as things go day by day.
Suit yourself. I think it would be entertaining to read the indictment you would prepare were you appointed Chief Inquisitor.
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