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underlyingtruth Very Senior User Offline Posts: 123 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2006 Gender:	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #15 - Jun 26^th, 2006 at 6:28pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	kockstar wrote on Jun 26^th, 2006 at 1:07pm: wtf are you even talking about here? I think he wanted you to visit the link: http://www.garageband.com/artist/cockstar LOL


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kockstar New User Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2006	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #16 - Jun 26^th, 2006 at 8:38pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: I think he wanted you to visit the link: http://www.garageband.com/artist/cockstar LOL wtf is that... lol.. those guys stole the name for thier band from something that nikki sixx made.. the same thing i did...


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NSAreject Senior User Offline Posts: 91 Location: Maryland Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2001 Gender:	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #17 - Jun 28^th, 2006 at 5:28pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Kockstar, Well, then debate it with: http://www.securityinstruction.com/ADR/dcid64/dcid64T.htm Personnel Security Standards and Procedures Governing Eligibility for Access to Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) 5. Personnel Security Standards. a. The individual requiring access to SCI must be a US citizen. b. The individual's immediate family must also be US citizens. 6. Exceptions to Personnel Security Standards. c. Exceptions to the US citizenship requirement for individuals to be accessed to SCI and their immediate family members shall require certification of a compelling need. This exception should be based upon a specific national security requirement and a certification of compelling need.


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kockstar New User Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2006	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #18 - Jun 28^th, 2006 at 7:58pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	NSAreject wrote on Jun 28^th, 2006 at 5:28pm: Kockstar, Well, then debate it with: http://www.securityinstruction.com/ADR/dcid64/dcid64T.htm Personnel Security Standards and Procedures Governing Eligibility for Access to Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) 5. Personnel Security Standards. a. The individual requiring access to SCI must be a US citizen. b. The individual's immediate family must also be US citizens. 6. Exceptions to Personnel Security Standards. c. Exceptions to the US citizenship requirement for individuals to be accessed to SCI and their immediate family members shall require certification of a compelling need. This exception should be based upon a specific national security requirement and a certification of compelling need. yep check seciton "c" thanks for looking it up.


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NSAreject Senior User Offline Posts: 91 Location: Maryland Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2001 Gender:	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #19 - Jun 29^th, 2006 at 1:58am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Kockstar, You are obviously not worth the time-of-day; you are probably a disgruntled polygrapher. The point of the article, is that getting an exception is not easy, and I am sure that most private contractors would not be willing to go that route - thus, I would consider it, generally, to be a clearance killer. My boss, even being a high-level program manager, had a difficult time getting cleared. Think and say, as you may. Yes, I am stupid, for playing into your hand...


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kockstar New User Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2006	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #20 - Jun 29^th, 2006 at 2:00pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	NSAreject wrote on Jun 29^th, 2006 at 1:58am: Kockstar, You are obviously not worth the time-of-day; why? coz your wrong? coz you yourself even proved yourself wrong? you dont know what your even talking about here... do you even have a foriegn born spouse and an SCI? I do. i know your wrong. NSAreject wrote on Jun 29^th, 2006 at 1:58am: you are probably a disgruntled polygrapher. hahaha your so funny!! hahah i must be a disgruntled polygrapher.. you nerd. NSAreject wrote on Jun 29^th, 2006 at 1:58am: The point of the article, is that getting an exception is not easy, and I am sure that most private contractors would not be willing to go that route now your speaking for most private contractors? first you made a dumb blanket statement and now you "am sure that most private contractors" NSAreject wrote on Jun 29^th, 2006 at 1:58am: I would consider it, generally, to be a clearance killer. oh now its "generally to be a clearance killer".. alot different than your first statement you made... NSAreject wrote on Jun 29^th, 2006 at 1:58am: My boss, even being a high-level program manager, had a difficult time getting cleared. but did he? as did MANY others.. thats why there is such a thing as a statment of compelling need. to get around that NSAreject wrote on Jun 29^th, 2006 at 1:58am: Think and say, as you may. NSAreject wrote on Jun 29^th, 2006 at 1:58am: Yes, I am stupid, for playing into your hand... no your stupid for making blanket statements about something you obviously knew nothing about but putting it out like was fact.


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NSAreject Senior User Offline Posts: 91 Location: Maryland Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2001 Gender:	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #21 - Jun 29^th, 2006 at 3:47pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Seen this situation more than once; we had a secretary with British relatives, that was able to get her TS, but NSA would not clear her. I have been in this business for many years, and yes, foreign relatives and foreign immediate family members can be clearance killers. And, I do have current ISA TS/SCI and active ISA Secret, both of which, require US citizenship for the above, or a request for an exception has to be made. My point is that requests for exceptions are NOT guarenteed. Now, is there a point to all this ranting ? Looks like we have another, I-SMELL-BS...


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EosJupiter Especially Senior User Offline But of Course ... Posts: 483 Location: Always Out There ...... Joined: Feb 28^th, 2005	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #22 - Jun 29^th, 2006 at 6:42pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	NSAReject, The Rantings and arguements sound like our old friend ODIN / BOSTON, back for another round of "Guess My New Handle". Just an observation. Regards ....

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NSAreject Senior User Offline Posts: 91 Location: Maryland Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2001 Gender:	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #23 - Jun 29^th, 2006 at 7:09pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	EosJupiter, Thanks for your support. Let's hope, I pissed off some polygrapher at NSA, or at polygraphplace.com. Alas, he will not deter my support for this site - helping others from becoming victims of the polygraph interrogation ! Oh yes, after I got kicked off polygraphplace.com, I contacted them directly, via email, asking why my posts were removed, but never received an answer.


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EosJupiter Especially Senior User Offline But of Course ... Posts: 483 Location: Always Out There ...... Joined: Feb 28^th, 2005	Re: Family Overseas and CIA decision Reply #24 - Jun 29^th, 2006 at 7:33pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	NSAreject wrote on Jun 29^th, 2006 at 7:09pm: EosJupiter, Thanks for your support. Let's hope, I pissed off some polygrapher at NSA, or at polygraphplace.com. Alas, he will not deter my support for this site - helping others from becoming victims of the polygraph interrogation ! Oh yes, after I got kicked off polygraphplace.com, I contacted them directly, via email, asking why my posts were removed, but never received an answer. NSAreject, Just in the fact that Polygraphplace.com edits outside criticisms and bans people from their board speaks volumes on their profession. Every profession worthy of working accepts and adapts constructive comments. I always did find it disconcerting that after any one of my polygraphs, we were told never to discuss or debate the procedure and keep it to ourselves. Just another ploy to keep their secrets from being revealed and defeated. As far as pissing off polygraphers, everyone needs a hobby. Most of the senior members of this board have been quoted one time or another at various polygraph association meetings around the country. Proof that they fear and dislike anything having to do with this website. Regards ...

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