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stillwaiting New User Offline Posts: 6 Joined: Dec 19^th, 2005	GEORGE I HAVE 1 more QUESTION? Dec 22^nd, 2005 at 7:39am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	George, When I take my pre-test how will I know what the CONTROL questions are going 2 be? Give me what to look out for & how will I be able to tell? I know look in Chapter 3 & 4 of your book? I just want to know the easiest way to tell. Is it how they are worded? I know they are usually very AMBIGIOUS questions. When they actually give me the test awhile I am hooked up and they ask me the 10 or 15 questions will they change the wording on the second or third test? or will they be worded exactly the same and just the order they were asked be different? And will the control questions be worded different each run through of the test? Please let me know this is confusing the hell out of me!!!! THANKS Ex: have you ever lied? I know this is a control question.... will this change the second time they run through it? Ex: besides what you told me have you ever used any other drugs? is this a control question? Anytime you see BESIDES does this make IT AN AUTOMATIC CONTROL question? ???


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6270 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: GEORGE I HAVE 1 more QUESTION? Reply #1 - Dec 22^nd, 2005 at 8:31am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Sorry, I'm not going to waste my time writing an explanation for someone who is too lazy to read the book. You'll find the answer to your question at pp. 140-145 of the 4th edition of TLBTLD. As is clearly explained at p. 144, the fact that a question is modified to begin, "Besides what you told me..." is not a sure indication that it's a "control" question. The question "Besides what you told me, have you ever used any other illegal drugs?" is very much a relevant question.

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stillwaiting New User Offline Posts: 6 Joined: Dec 19^th, 2005	Re: GEORGE I HAVE 1 more QUESTION? Reply #2 - Dec 22^nd, 2005 at 9:38pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Can you still PASS the test if you notice only 2 or 3 control questions? And show a reaction to them? Will they word them differently for each test? ??? Should I breathe in through my nose and exhale from my mouth? Whats the best approach? Thanks


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gelb disliker Senior User Offline Posts: 92 Location: ou ti nth emiddl eo fnowhere Joined: Jul 28^th, 2004	Re: GEORGE I HAVE 1 more QUESTION? Reply #3 - Dec 23^rd, 2005 at 6:56am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Good questions that are answered in the book.


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6270 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: GEORGE I HAVE 1 more QUESTION? Reply #4 - Dec 23^rd, 2005 at 2:52pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	stillwaiting wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2005 at 9:38pm: Can you still PASS the test if you notice only 2 or 3 control questions? And show a reaction to them? Typically, failing one question means failing the entire "test." So yes, if one doesn't notice a "control" question and doesn't react as strongly to it as one does to the corresponding relevant question, then one might not pass. However, if one were to mistake a relevant question for a "control" question and augment reactions to it, then one would be quite likely to "fail." Quote: Will they word them differently for each test? ??? No. Quote: Should I breathe in through my nose and exhale from my mouth? How on earth did you get that notion? Quote: Whats the best approach? When at rest, most people inhale and exhale primarily through the nose. That would probably be the best approach.

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stillwaiting New User Offline Posts: 6 Joined: Dec 19^th, 2005	Re: GEORGE I HAVE 1 more QUESTION? Reply #5 - Dec 23^rd, 2005 at 6:08pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	If you answer yes to a CONTROL question in the pre-test does the EXAMINER re-word it so you will say NO on the actual poly TEST? ex... for pre-test questionare: HAVE YOU EVER DONE DRUGS? control question you answer YES!!! Then on your actual POLY test : BESIDES WHAT YOU TOLD ME HAVE YOU DONE OTHER DRUGS? is this how it is given? these are both CONTROL questions right?


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6270 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: GEORGE I HAVE 1 more QUESTION? Reply #6 - Dec 23^rd, 2005 at 6:26pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	stillwaiting wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2005 at 6:08pm: If you answer yes to a CONTROL question in the pre-test does the EXAMINER re-word it so you will say NO on the actual poly TEST? ex... for pre-test questionare: HAVE YOU EVER DONE DRUGS? control question you answer YES!!! Then on your actual POLY test : BESIDES WHAT YOU TOLD ME HAVE YOU DONE OTHER DRUGS? is this how it is given? these are both CONTROL questions right? The fact that you still possibly think that the question "Have you ever done drugs?" is a "control" question indicates to me that you haven't even bothered to read my answers to your questions on this message board, let alone the book. (See my reply to your first question in this message thread.) I will not waste my time answering any further questions from you. Good luck. You'll need it.

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stillwaiting New User Offline Posts: 6 Joined: Dec 19^th, 2005	Re: GEORGE I HAVE 1 more QUESTION? Reply #7 - Dec 23^rd, 2005 at 6:48pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I AM TRULY SORRY I am a NERVOUS wreck! I did not mean to ask you the same question I feel like such a fool!!! Please accept my APOLOGY!!! and I won't bother you with anymore questions!!!! Have a Healthy Happy Holiday!!!!!


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