ODIN wrote on Dec 5^th, 2005 at 3:28am:


I'm not sure from the above whether you're speaking specifically to me or to others, but assuming the former:

I'm sorry that you found what I wrote so overwhelmingly offensive.  I would suggest, however, that if you intend to spend any time at all on the Internet, you grow a slightly thicker skin.  What I wrote to you was pretty darned tame   Especially since your prior post certainly did make it look like you believed all that I wrote about in my response.

ODIN wrote on Dec 5^th, 2005 at 6:18am:




In control question tests an informed examinee is able to discern the types of questions by the content of the questions being asked.  The more serious the subject matter, the more likely it is a relevant question.  Disguised or not a control question will rear its head waving a big white flag every time, just as a relevant waves a big red flag.  In a sense, each says, "Hello, it's me!"

Okay, Gelb.  Let's take it easy on the guy.  He is here trying to discuss polygraphy in a civil manner.  At least people with differing views can come to this site and post without the fear of being banned (like polygraphplace.com).  We need polygraphers on this site so we can ask them questions.

ODIN,

Can you be more specific about what makes you a better polygrapher than others?  You mention that you "spend more time" with examinees and "set controls properly" but those seem pretty vague and I'm not sure how that makes the test more accurate.  Why do you think your tests are more accurate?  What is your accuracy rate?

Thanks

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Fair enough, and for my part, I apologize as well.  Evidently, I misconstrued Odin's earlier meaning.

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ODIN,

I did warn you to be prepared. It appears you have brought out the anger of those who have been burned by your bad examiner associates or the polygraph in general. I too would like to know the difference of GOOD VS BAD, examiners. And why you feel your better than than most  examiners. I want to know how you can correlate your work with that of NAS study, knowing full well that some premier scientific minds and researchers have completely invalidated the polygraph and anything the APA has to say to counter it. 

THe other thing to keep in mind, is that every time someone is burned by a false positive or passes a polygraph interrogation using countermeasures, the noose tightens in doing away with polygraphs. Humans by nature dislike being messed with, and will either avoid or nullify a painful experience anyway possible. Especially if it means having there integrity or honor questioned by a pseudo-scientific practice. I know for a fact that at a certain east coast company, most of the scientists and engineers are very well versed in countermeasures and routinely beat the machine. Effectively making it a moot threat at best.

Regards

ODIN wrote on Dec 6^th, 2005 at 5:45am:


Odin,

You have used quite a wide brush to paint those of us against the use of polygraph because of one person.  Now you may better understand our reasons for our antipolygraph sentiments.  It just doesn't seem fair does it?  It is obvious that your reasons for logging on and joining the conversation were not purely to learn our reasons for being against polygraphy but simply to gain some ammunition in your quest to promote polygraphy into the mainstream.  I have enjoyed the opportunities in which I have been able to engage in conversation with examiners and discuss our varying beliefs based on our experiences.  You seem too willing to bail out because of a minority of posters here.  Many of us have been burned as a result of polygraph testing so it is most certainly a hot-button topic.  That is a realization that should come to everyone simply based on the site's title.

Please, if you wish to continue in debate by all means do so.  Don't be so easily disuaded.  That is unless of course the colors you have shown are true.

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To answer your first question, I can tell you that Odin is shown as a guest as he has closed his user account.  You will find the same with others such as Anal Sphincter.  While active he was shown as a user and subsequent rankings.  However, upon his decision to close his user account you will now see his status as a guest.

I cannot answer your second question, however I can tell you that in the time I have been visiting this board, which includes time before I registered I have not seen the activity you mention.

You were admonished by the Administrator for violating posting policy, no more.  Don't try to read into it, there is nothing further to read other than what is written.