Algol wrote on Sep 16^th, 2005 at 11:43am:


People like you make the rest of us law-abiding citizens look like the sickos.   You are  the reason why these devices are used.   In your case, the polygrapher is not the sicko - you are. 

retcopper wrote on Sep 16^th, 2005 at 4:55pm:



Well in all reality the reason they DON'T check who he is living with is because they (probation officer and polygrapher) have a false sense of security and/or believe that the polygraph would catch this guy if something were not right.

The polygraph is a great tool, unfortunately to many it becomes the ONLY tool.

When I took my polygraph  as part of the employment process, the examiner really made me feel demoralized, like I was some kind of criminal.  I was fortunate enough to pass but the series of questions really put me off.   

We sometimes hear about those government officials who sell secrets to the spies.  Clearly, they must have passed the polygraph.  Obviously a successful polygraph isn't a guarantee that the person you hire has integrity.   Their use is meanigless.

John,

I wouldn't brand Algol a "sicko" based on the limited information he provided. For example, a highschool junior who dates a freshman might in some jurisdictions become a statutory rapist by his or her senior year. But by contemporary American sexual mores, such a person wouldn't be considered a "sicko."

Algol,

By the same token, while there are many legitimate criticisms to be made of polygraph practice, including those associated with post-conviction sex offender "testing," I wouldn't brand all polygraphers as "sickos," either. That's an ad hominem attack that does little to further discussion.

George

You are correct. I shouldn't have made my last comment in my first post. I was stereotyping. I should know better. As a matter of fact, my last polygrapher has been very professional. I also feel that the polygraph could be very useful in the treatment of most sex offenders, but that is a different subject.

DarkCobra2005

I was simply trying to relate my experiences with the hope of helping someone else. Interpret them how you please. So far I have taken about a dozen polygraphs. Most of the time, the polygrapher runs 3-5 passes. On one of those tests, I was shown one of my passes and he said that it showed possible deception. However, I learned later that he graded the question on that test as being inconclusive due to the other 2 passes. I have failed two (rated inconclusive) other questions that I was being truthful on. There are generally five to six relevent questions each time. I generally have to lie on four of them due to my situation. My failure percentage is higher on my truthful answers than my lies. During two of the three questions I missed, I know that I was distracted for just an instant. This is why I consider my failures to be random. I believe that if you asked me the same question a hundred times, I would randomly fail a few times. I have been taking these polygraphs for over two years now. Considering the extreme difficulty that others in my group have been having with polygraphs, I feel that I have been fairly successful at dealing with them. You are right when you say that I have defeated the system. But I also feel that I have defeated the polygraph test. The polygraph machine is only a small part of the test. The test is also about using psychological intimidation to get information.

I think the age of my victim is inappropriate for this forum. She is over 18 now.

This site rocks

I just ran across this site a couple days ago by accident. I read the downloads yesterday and found them very informative. I am getting off parole fairly soon and will probably have to take one more test. I am not sure I can integrate my techniques with the techniques described and I don't plan to try. However, I do find the information to be useful in detecting the particular mind game that my polygrapher is using at the time to try and elicit information from me. It also gets easier in that a violation at this point would only get me about 20 days in jail, in other words, it is even harder to intimidate me now.