hwsternfan wrote on Aug 23
rd, 2005 at 5:52am:
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How does he sleep at nite?
Doc deny everything. Never admit...stay strong and read the Lie behind the lie detector!
Actually its attributable to the fact that the lie detector doesn't detect shyte!
Just never ADMIT to anything DURING the exam that you did not admit to in the pre screening or on your application. If you don't ADMIT they can still fail you but on what basis? Then they are opening themselves up to lawsuits. The problem is MOST people ADMIT to things during the exam when they are accused of lying or being deceptive.
Just hope you didn't admit to anything to the exam or admit to anything you didn't state on your application/pre poly questionaire. If you did you are done...if not...its all based on the poly...not you.
They just use the polygraph to eliminate who they don't want. It doesn't detect shyte!
The key to beating a polygraph "test" is 1) to make no damaging admissions DENY DENY DENY! and 2) to subtly augment one's physiological responses to the "control" questions.
tell them nothing. Deny everything. But be sure your applications match up to prior police applications.
don't admit ANYTHING duringthe exam. If they accuse you of lying DENY IT. Even if they keep accusing you of lying DENY IT! Stick to your guns!
Just deny everything...don't admit anything during the exam...you will be fine...DENY DENY DENY
Just never ADMIT to the examiner. If they fail you they fail you...just don't admit during the exam. All the exam is anyway is an EXCUSE for them to unload anyone they really don't like and have no reason to disqualify them...so they use the polyscam.
When in doubt...DENY DENY DENY.
NEVER ADMIT!
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Do not admit to anything you did not state in that pre interview during the actual poly exam.
If they acuse you of lying during the exam...deny it....do not let them force you into ADMITTING anything!
Where do I learn about mental countermeasures?
Never admit to anything and never sign anything the poly guy gives to you during the exam. Thats a sure cause for failure.
hwsternfan,
You ask how (as a polygraph examiner) I "sleep at night." Well, after doing a little research into what you seem to be about (After reading your posts, I believe you have some real "issues.") Please allow me to fill you and the others here in on a little of what I am about.
I have many years experience as a law enforcement officer. Like most, I started in patrol, spent some time in the evidence locker (Couldn't maintain my tan in a 12' X 12' room), did backgrounds for awhile, and finally ended up in Criminal Investigations. It was in Investigations that I started watching the agency's polygraph examiners at work.
These guys amazed me. Maybe it was mostly interrogation ability, but they seemed able to accomplish during a four-hour polygraph examination, what the investigative unit could not accomplish in a hard worked investigation over several months.
Solve the case, recover the evidence, and assemble a prosecutable case where all had been lost prior to their involvement. And I watch them do it over and over.
I admit. I was impressed.
Keep in mind, we are not some small "Podunk" department. As detectives, we went to all the schools, we were good, and we knew what we were doing.
But "damn" these polygraph guys were VERY good. AND I wanted to be just like them.
So, I completed by degree and I went to polygraph school. The school was run by professionals who cared what they were doing and cared about producing the best product.
Upon graduation, I was assigned to a pretty good-sized polygraph unit (for a non-federal agency) and went to work. I had two responsibilities. Criminal Specific Issue testing and Pre-employment screening of police candidates.
I have to admit, I have enjoyed criminal testing the best, for now I am one of the guys who ride in on the white horse and solve that "unsolvable" case. A real "high", I must admit.
I also do pre-employment screening. I will say that by the nature of the beast, screening is not as rewarding as criminal testing. One reason being, as I have posted now several times, I have a real concern about false positives. I do not want to deny a qualified candidate a shot at being a police officer.
So, in my small way, I try to do what I can for the people I test. If I get a DI or Inc call, I talk with the person. I try to work out whatever might be troubling them, and in a good number of the cases, what is causing them a problem is not significant enough to keep them from the job. They are ultimately successful in passing the exam and I have since seen several of them in uniform.
In other cases, their "problem" is indeed disqualifying and they don't get the job. I don't revel in this, but I record the information and the job goes to a better-qualified candidate.
The bottom line is (at least in my case) I have very, very few police candidates that simply "fail" the polygraph examination with no additional reasons for their problems. I take the extra time. I do everything I can to help. I have worked late many nights, working with a candidate who has walked into the exam room with "issues."
Bottom line is I sleep pretty well at night. I have put a lot of real bad guys into prison, I have kept some definate losers from carrying a badge, and I have helped a whole lot of people realize their law enforcement dreams.
Yes, I Sleep quite well indeed, thank you.
Now, not to go on the attack, but since you have come at me several times since I have started posting on this site, I would like to make one small statement about your posts I have denoted above....
Damn! exactly what are you afraid of? I mean, the bulk of your posts consist of "don't confess, don't confess, don't confess!
Don't confess to what? Now don't get me wrong here, but after many years as a criminal investigator, when I run into an attitude like yours, it is generally not for any reason at all. I believe there is a story there and I am pretty sure it is not "I failed for no reason."
hwsternfan, I feel in your case there is "more to the story." Wanna share?
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