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Mike521 New User Offline Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 7^th, 2005	failed police poly in NY, am I entitled to papers? Aug 11^th, 2005 at 4:29am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I failed my poly yesterday for my local police department in NY. since I was being honest I felt no need to worry, and was completely confident in all my answers. the investigator came back and told me there was one thing he wasn't sure of, and asked if I was confident in my answers. I said yes and that I was correct about everything I told him, and he said he'd get back to me after having some colleagues review the data as well. Today they got back to me and said it was a fail. I'm appealing the decision and it will go to another agency and be evaluated again. does anyone have any advice about how to fight this? am I legally entitled to the documents pertaining to my polygraph? I was so confident that I did fine, I wasn't even worried when he said he wasn't sure, I was like "well I was honest so I know his coworkers will determine I was truthful"...


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Mike521 New User Offline Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 7^th, 2005	Re: failed police poly in NY, am I entitled to pap Reply #1 - Aug 11^th, 2005 at 11:38am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I just want to clarify, what I'm asking is if I am legally entitled to see the charts that the polygraph printed out. It was done by computer. when it was printing out in front of me I saw mostly negative numbers, occasionally letters with plus signs, but never a number with a plus sign.. maybe I missed something though, I wasn't paying much attention cause I was so sure I did well


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NM8HTR New User Offline Posts: 6 Joined: Jul 31^st, 2005	Re: failed police poly in NY, am I entitled to pap Reply #2 - Aug 11^th, 2005 at 9:11pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Mike, I too just took my polly for a Department two days ago. I also was honest, and I also failed, according to the computer. My investigator told me also that he had to review it, I'm not too confident now. I don't know the answer to your question, but I know one thing, I'm getting sick of trying for these damn departments. There is nothing more frustrating than going through their months of processes, just to get to the end and have a computer make the ultimate decision, and be wrong for that matter. I think maybe I'll finish my degree and go to Minnisota. Sorry to here about your experiance bro. I'm am glad to see that I'm not alone in this delima, as I'm sure there are many more too.


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Brandon Hall Ex Member	Re: failed police poly in NY, am I entitled to pap Reply #3 - Aug 11^th, 2005 at 9:43pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Same boat as both of you. It actually isn't the computer that "failed" you, it is the operator's interpretation of the charts. As far as obtaining the results and supporting documentation, you will need to contact the agency in question. I made attempts to do the same without success. I am not entitled to any of the information obtained throughout the application process, save for the original application. All other information is locked up tight under the title of "Departmental policy." I wish you luck, but realize even in the circumstance you do get hold of the information, unfortunately you still "failed."


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Mike521 New User Offline Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 7^th, 2005	Re: failed police poly in NY, am I entitled to pap Reply #4 - Aug 11^th, 2005 at 11:41pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I understand, I honestly don't believe that the graph says I failed though.. I just can't imagine it. I guess that would mean that the polygrapher either purposely or accidentally misinterpreted it, but I think that's what happened. if I can see it myself and have it analyzed by my own independent person, maybe I'd have grounds to fight it. NM8, I'm going to PM you, I'm just curious if you're applying for the same dept as I am does anyone know of privacy laws that I can use in my favor to get the graph?


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