Can anyone give any recommendations on staying calm in general? I get a bit nervous during interview situations, sometimes for a few seconds I'll get extremely nervous for no apparent reason. Once I calm down I'm fine.

I have to take a polygraph soon and I'm nervous about getting nervous, and concerned that this will show up as a false positive. Are there any general recommendations about just staying calm?

I prefer not to take any drugs or anything.. thanks for the advice though, are there any other options?

"sometimes for a few seconds I'll get extremely nervous for no apparent reason...I'm nervous about getting nervous"

Not to make you even more nervous but I am the exact the same way and took my first poly recently.  I still have not heard from anyone as to results but I am pretty positive I failed it. I was 100% honest, had nothing to lie about, but like you I will get extremely nervous for no reason and then become even more nervous because I'm feeling nervous.   

I'm not an expert so don't have any advice to give you, just wanted to let you know I sympathize with you.  I think you are fortunate to have found this website prior to taking your poly.  I had not idea what I was in for when I went and wish I had been prepared.

Edited to say that I also would not take any drugs as during my poly they asked if I had taken anything other than vitamins.  I don't know if you've had a polygraph before but they also asked me if I had studied/read anything about polygraphs, if I was going to do anything to beat the polygraph, etc. 

Sergeant1107 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2005 at 6:28pm:


Sergeant,

This is VERY bad advice for the VERY reason you provide in your final paragraph.  As a polygraph examiner I know that when I see "controlled breathing" especially to the extent you are suggesting, it can mean only one of two things:

A.  I have a very nervous person who is trying to calm himself and has made the mistake of listening to someone  who told him to do exactly as you have instructed, or:

B.  I have someone who is employing a crude countermeasure in an effort to "beat" the test.

The problem is I am not a mind reader and I don't know why the examinee is controlling his breathing.  In most cases, I can "talk the person down," help him stablize his breathing  patterns, and help him successfully complete the exam.

Sometimes, no matter how hard I try, the person refuses to stop his obviously controlled breathing.  In that case, I have no choice but to render the examination as a "no opinion."  In those cases, the examinee...

A.  Does not get the job
B.  Does not get the plea bargain.
C.  Does not get to stay on probation
D.  etc, etc, etc.

Please understand that it is pretty rare that I cannot get the subject to normalize his breathing pattern.  (Maybe one in 50?).  Also, when I say someone is controlling his breathing, I mean he is OBVIOUSLY and INTENTIONALLY manupulating his respiratory cycles, even when he has been instructed on what he needs to do to get through the test.

In a way, it sort of comes back to the "Purposeful Non-Cooperation" clause of our police applicant package.

My advice: (although most of you are going to hate to hear this)

Cooperate and tell the truth, and PLEASE don't try to "control" anything.

Nonombre

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Brandon,

I don't know about other police agencies, but in mine we take a PNC call very seriously.  The polygraph data is reviewed by two independant licensed examiners.  The charts are mixed up with other non-suspect charts (all with roughly equivent appearing data), and unless all independantly (in the blind) come to the same opinion of PNC, the exam is done again.   

Keep in mind, the other examiners never met the subject, they don't even know these are suspected PNC charts.  In fact, all they are told is that they are being asked for an independant score of the charts.  They must arrive at their opinion independantly and all must arrive at the exact same diagnosis.  If one examiner does not arrive at the same decision, the tie goes to the examinee and the test is run again.

Nonombre

Nonombre,

It would seem to me that your concerns about breathing control would quickly produce an untenable situation.

The subject comes in to the exam and is nervous, even though he has nothing to hide and intends to be truthful.  In order to control his anxiety and remain calm, he consciously controls his breathing.   

The examiner asks him why he is controlling his breathing.  The answer he receives is, “To remain calm.”  Apparently, the examiner would then advise the subject that he is not permitted to consciously control his breathing, and that continuing to do so will constitute Purposeful Non-Cooperation, and he will fail.

If the subject is consciously controlling his breathing, he is almost certainly doing it for one of two reasons.  He could be nervous in general despite having no plans to lie, and so he controls his breathing simply to remain calm and not let his anxiety become a problem.  Or, he could be planning to withhold information or lie about one or more things and is controlling his breathing because he thinks that will help him get away with it.

The problem I see with this is that in the first instance the examinee is doing absolutely nothing wrong.  He is not attempting to lie or withhold any information.  He is attempting to cooperate with the testing procedure.  In fact, he is exhibiting a measure of control that is to be admired and encouraged in any law enforcement professional.  Yet, in order to avoid skewing the data for the “test” he will be prohibited from exhibiting such control.

I think what makes the situation untenable is that it is unfair to tell a subject that they cannot attempt to remain calm.  They are essentially being told to let themselves panic, if appropriate, and that to do anything to control their reactions will result in them summarily failing the test.  It seems difficult to defend instructions to the subject that they engage in no measures to avoid anxiety or panic.  Instructions to tell the truth are entirely appropriate, but I understand it is exceedingly difficult to determine if those instructions are being followed or not.   

Since the polygraph cannot detect deception and the corresponding violation of the instructions to tell the truth, it is instead used to detect violations of the instruction to breathe normally.  In that capacity (as an instrument to measure respiration rate) I’m certain the polygraph performs admirably.

I can easily envision a scenario wherein the subject is told, after a series of questions during which the examiner noticed controlled breathing, to immediately stop controlling his breathing and to just breath “normally.”   
Subject: “But I wasn’t lying!  Can’t you tell?  I’ve just told the truth on every single question – why are you asking me about my breathing?”
Examiner: “Well, I can’t tell if you were lying and controlling your breathing to conceal that fact, or if you were being truthful and controlling your breathing to avoid becoming overly anxious.”
Subject:  “But isn’t this supposed to be a lie detector test?  Can’t you tell I wasn’t lying!  I was telling the complete truth!”
Examiner:  “Okay.  You just failed for purposefully not cooperating with the instructions.”

The subject would then be reported as having failed, even though he told the complete truth and didn't withhold any information.  All he did was not allow himself to hyperventilate during an interrogation.  I just don't see how that can possibly be considered fair.

I also don't see how it can be corrected unless the polygraph is no longer used in such a capacity.  And I'm fine with that.   

Sergeant1107 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2005 at 11:15pm:


Sergeant,

Not to be considered a "wise a--" but you should consider writing screenplays for a living.  You are good at it.

Look, all I can say is that my exams don't go the way you have described.  In your scenerio, the examiner is as out of control as the examinee.  Not likely in my exam room.

I can tell you that in the VAST majority of the controlled breathing cases I have run into, I have been successful in bringing a nervous subject's breathing into acceptible parameters.  (Maybe I have been lucky?)

Please don't advise people to "control" their breathing anymore.  It is counter-productive for everybody.  Let's consider a scenerio a little different thatn the one you just put forward:

Envision a situation where based on the bad advice given on this site, a polygraph examinee has decided to "control" his breathing in order to "beat" a polygraph examination.

Now as you are aware, a polygraph instrument normally records a certain number of breaths per minute.  (bulk of the population).  Now thanks to bad advice, a particular examinee has slowed his breathing to maybe 1/5 of that normal cycle.  This causes slow, deep, controlled breaths that are oh so easily picked up by even the most "asleep at the wheel" examiner.  (Think of what it would look like visually.  Picture the graph in your mind)

The examinee (who knows he is manufacturing this breathing because he is following the "good" advice of this site) insists he is doing nothing wrong, and is just nervous. (as he smirks to himself "Antipolygraph was right.  I am in control now").

Finally, after several attempts to work with the examinee, the examiner realizes this person is making no effort to follow even the most basic instructions (there are alot of methods at an examiner's disposal to help modify controlled breathing in a nervous subject)

So finally, as you suggest, the examiner says, “Okay.  You just failed for purposefully not cooperating with the instructions.” 

Similar situation to the one you suggest, different motivations, same outcome.

Nonombre
 

Sergeant1107 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2005 at 3:03am:


Sergeant,

That's my whole point.  I absolutely DO NOT believe that "anyone controlling their breathing is up to something and smirking about being in control of the examination."

Actually, I have found that most of the people out there who attept to control their breathing during a polygraph exam are for the most part,  innocent, nervous, people who are doing what comes naturally.

AND it turns out that I can work with the vast majority of these folks and go a long way to calm them down.

However, there is a part of the population who at the end of the day, are intentionally attempting to distort their physiology during a polygraph examination and no matter what they are told, clearly intend to continue on their path of:

"Purposeful non-cooperation."

Now, if you would please accept for just a minute that there are in fact people out there actually following the advice of this and other sites and are therefore deliberately controlling their breathing (and continue to do so even when told to stop their behavior).  Then I would ask you to put yourself in my place for a moment and tell me...

What would you do in response to obvious and clear non-cooperation?

Especially when their are a dozen people standing in line behind this joker who really want this one opening and are more than willing to cooperate with the process.

What would you do, Sergeant?

Nonombre