This is the first time i'm posting a message on this site. 
 
I have been on probation for over 3 years now and have passed all my polygraph.  Recently, I took a polygraph and the results were "inconclusive" therefore i had to retake the test again and the result from the second polygraphs was inconclusive, so i was offered a third polygraph.  Unfortunately all three polygraph were inconclusive.  Now my probation officer thinks i'm deceptive and hiding stuff from both her and the polygraph examiner.  She has referred the case to her supervisor and now i dont know what actions will be taken against me.   
 
I want to ask the experts in here if they can help me with these three questions.  I have not comminted any new crimes nor have i violated any of my terms and conditions. 
 
1.  Can a "deceptive" or "inconclusive" polygraph result alone constitute a violation of supervision? 
2.  Can a Polygraph examination results and conclusions determine if a violation of supervision has occured and on that basis, can the probation officer request for revocation? 
3.  Can a Polygraph examinations results be relied on as evidence of truth or deception if no new crime is reported, and be asserted as proof of any matter of inquiry by the examination in any proceeding. This includes a revocation proceeding or a court review? 
 
Any help is appreciated.

dallascounty

How for is it to the end of your probation? The reason I ask is, if it is getting close to the end there could be money reasons for the inconclusives or a way to try to extend your probation. More polygraphs. It doesn't seem reasonable, to me, that you pass three years of polys then all of a sudden you get three inconclusives in a row. Three in a row throws up a big red flag to me. You would probably save money by getting a lawyer to look into your situation. Have him and your PO read this site.

I wouldn't think they could revoke your probation on an inconclusive. However, I believe Texas laws allows deception as a violation. Check with a lawyer to make sure.

dallascounty

I didn't read that law anywhere. I got my notion from from the media. That's why I said check with a lawyer. I am not sure. However, I don't think any state can revoke your probation for an inconclusive. Or for 3. An inconclusive means no results. It doesn't convict you.

Ask your PO about taking a private polygraph.

If you would have been truthful, your results wouldn't have been inconclusive.

dallascounty wrote on Jan 24^th, 2007 at 3:45am:


If you are on probation, a judge is deciding your fate, get a good attorney who can point out that the only thing you're being accused of is being inconclusive on a pseudoscientific test...

You are under what is called the "containment model." Kim English, who came up with this model, wrote in her NIJ brief (found at http://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/sexoff.txt) that "polygraph data should be used in conjunction with other information when making decisions about case management of sex offenders."

I take this to mean that unless there is other corroborating evidence, sole reliance on the polygraph is unwise. However, as I argued with Kim on many occasions, probation officers will not do that because they do not have the necessary background in which to evaluate polygraph results and will fall prey to the popular belief that it is infallible. But like many people, Kim also doesn't believe that the polygraph is pseudoscience, irrespective of what the National Academy of Science says... 

In addition, regardless of who you go to for another polygraph, you are now sensitized to the questions in which you've been deemed inconclusive. No matter how experienced (LBCB?), a new examiner cannot overcome that...

So hence, you're SOL without a good lawyer...

Same here. Polygraphy is total bullshit. Countermeasures got me through the last two maintenance exams, which were the only two (just before the end of probation) that really mattered after seven years. I saw lots of people get an "offer" to be extended for two years if they had failed an exam just before end of supervision. Right, give me 16 hours of community service for being inconclusive. Let's see, that motivated me to do what? Figure out why I was getting screwed for telling the truth and what I needed to do to protect myself.

Pick a control question, make yourself have a feeling like you're on fire, or the feeling like you're falling or tripping (slight adrenalin rush), and you're good to go. It's all internal and those dufus polygraphers will never know the difference.

Polygraphy is a sham, the "test" can be beaten by several means/techniques, and until you've faced having your freedom threatened by the results of what some quack examiner says, anyone who thinks that simply telling the truth (and the polygraph will set you free) is delusional.

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I would just like to point out that none of the pro-polygraph posts on this board are ever edited or deleted by the moderators of this board.   

On the other hand, just try to post an antipolygraph sentiment on the message board at PolygraphPlace.com.  The people over there who are nominally "Dedicated to Truth" won't permit any sort of debate.

On George's message board anyone can post whatever opinions they like.  Plenty of people speak out in favor of the polygraph here.

It is rather ironic that a pro-polygraph person posts on this board that it is meaningless to post here unless you agree with the board's anti-polygraph philosophies.  It would truly be meaningless if any pro-polygraph sentiments were deleted as soon as they were posted, which is precisely what happens to antipolygraph postings on the PolygraphPlace.com board.