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Apr 10th, 2004 at 12:44am
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My question is if you have to lie on a relevant question and use CM's, and then when a controll question is asked and you were to use CM's on that question as well, then would that create an inconclusive chart?
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 10th, 2004 at 6:08am
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This question is too stupid to be taken seriously, but I feel certain one of the numb skulls on this site will give you some advice.   Then you can go flunk the test just like they have.  After that you can be one of the bitter regulars here in George's cry baby army.
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 10th, 2004 at 5:13pm
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Fred,

A polygraph examination will be inconclusive if reactions to relevant and control questions are about the same. To pass, one needs to produce stronger reactions to the control questions than any "naturally" occuring reactions to the relevant questions.

Once one understands what utter and complete nonsense polygraph testing is, the relevant questions may no longer be so intimidating, and it is not a foregone conclusion that by answering them falsely one will produce a significant reaction.

Download The Lie Behind the Lie Detector from this site for more info on polygraphy in general and countermeasures in particular.

You will also note in Amazed's post the fear, anger, and frustration that this website causes polygraphers. They are upset at seeing the tricks of their trade made public. But they are absolutely powerless to do anything about it

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Reply #3 - Apr 10th, 2004 at 6:13pm
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Just as I predicted, the numb nuts who failed his test has indeed given you some advice.  Now go and do likewise.

  
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Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2004 at 6:30pm
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Amazed,

It's you who are amazing, bud. You know countermeasures work, and that you can't detect them. So you post pathetic little jibes in an attempt to confuse and misdirect. Perhaps this is not surprising, considering that your whole "profession" depends on lies, deceit, and public ignorance.

If you want people to believe that it is not to their advantage to use polygraph countermeasures, then why don't you take Dr. Richardson's polygraph countermeasure challenge and prove it?

You won't, because you, who calls others on this site "numb nuts," (as well as all the other polygraph operators out there) don't have the balls!

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Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2004 at 10:24pm
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Amazed,

It's you who are amazing, bud. You know countermeasures work, and that you can't detect them. So you post pathetic little jibes in an attempt to confuse and misdirect. Perhaps this is not surprising, considering that your whole "profession" depends on lies, deceit, and public ignorance.

If you want people to believe that it is not to their advantage to use polygraph countermeasures, then why don't you take Dr. Richardson's polygraph countermeasure challenge and prove it?

You won't, because you, who calls others on this site "numb nuts," (as well as all the other polygraph operators out there) don't have the balls!

Grin


Just to answer the statement in Amazed's post, did you or did you not fail your polygraph exam?
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 10th, 2004 at 10:46pm
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guest,

Polygraph #1: I was completely honest, but nonetheless failed. I was accused of lying about illegal drug use. I have never used any illegal drug.

Polygraph #2: Having failed polygraph #1, I did my research,  found this site among others, and read TLBTLD. Again, I was completely honest (except about having researched the poly). I answered all relevant question truthfully, employed countermeasures on the controls (which were easy to spot) and passed.

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Reply #7 - Apr 11th, 2004 at 12:43am
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So you were completely honest and you passed.  OK that's fine.  But the question was fom someone who has already said he will be lying.  Do you really want to help him? ???
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 11th, 2004 at 1:19am
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Amazed,

I don't really care to help someone who plans on lying to beat the polygraph. What I do care about is that the truth be told about polygraphs.

You posted a reply that was deliberately misleading (suggesting that countermeasure use will surely lead to failing) and gratuitously insulting to the many who post here who have been victimized by polygraphy. It was your reply that prompted me to respond to Fred's inquiry.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 11th, 2004 at 3:22am
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Amazed,

I don't really care to help someone who plans on lying to beat the polygraph. What I do care about is that the truth be told about polygraphs.

You posted a reply that was deliberately misleading (suggesting that countermeasure use will surely lead to failing) and gratuitously insulting to the many who post here who have been victimized by polygraphy. It was your reply that prompted me to respond to Fred's inquiry.


Amazed, you mean man, why do you "gratuitously" insult and deliberately mislead this sensitive little punk?   
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 11th, 2004 at 2:30pm
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Amazed, you mean man, why do you "gratuitously" insult and deliberately mislead this sensitive little punk?   


guest,

"Mean" is precisely the right word to describe "Amazed," yourself, and the great majority of polygraphers who post on this site. Not only do you lack any empathy for those who have been falsely labeled as liars by the polygraph, you also make fun of them.

I hope you don't hold any position of public trust. You certainly don't deserve it.

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Reply #11 - Apr 12th, 2004 at 2:40am
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those who have been falsely labeled as liars by the polygraph
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  The guys on this board reminds me of all the guys in prison - you are all "falsely labeled as liars", and they are all innocent.  Yeah right!!
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 12th, 2004 at 9:38am
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  The guys on this board reminds me of all the guys in prison - you are all "falsely labeled as liars", and they are all innocent.  Yeah right!!


I-Smell-BS,

It is not difficult to understand that an invalid test, such as CQT polygraphy, will produce inaccurate results.

If you wish to sniff out bullshit, look to the teachings and doctrines of the polygraph community.
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