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Mr.ROID INFO Guest	Re: I need to lie Reply #60 - Jun 20^th, 2004 at 8:45am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	KONA are you from Nampa, ID ?


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Kona Very Senior User Offline Posts: 159 Joined: Sep 23^rd, 2003	Re: I need to lie Reply #61 - Jun 20^th, 2004 at 12:10pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: KONA are you from Nampa, ID ? Is that a geographical place? If it is.........the answer is no. I reside in California. Kona


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mike_C. User Offline Posts: 25 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2005	Re: I need to lie Reply #62 - May 28^th, 2005 at 5:26am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	PDD-Fed, Any cop, any good street cop that is, would never have posted a response and added that they are the law. if you were really in law enforcement, I doubt very much you would have taken the bait, but you did. You responded with hostility and anger. I could see it in your sentences. Most real cops and polygraphists don't post messages on these boards.....all they do is sit back and read. And wait..... Mike_C.


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piglikedonut New User Offline Posts: 1 Joined: Jul 27^th, 2005	Re: I need to lie Reply #63 - Jul 27^th, 2005 at 2:09am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	MOST departments in metro Atlanta view everyones' past drug usage on a CASE by CASE basis. Being a LEO myself I suggest to you TO TELL THE TRUTH!!! If you lie now, you will lie later!!!


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Sergeant1107 God Member Offline Posts: 730 Location: Connecticut, USA Joined: May 21^st, 2005 Gender:	Re: I need to lie Reply #64 - Jul 28^th, 2005 at 8:53pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	piglikedonut wrote on Jul 27^th, 2005 at 2:09am: MOST departments in metro Atlanta view everyones' past drug usage on a CASE by CASE basis. Being a LEO myself I suggest to you TO TELL THE TRUTH!!! If you lie now, you will lie later!!! I agree. If you are planning to lie you should not be trying to get a job in law enforcement. I believe the information in TLBTLD should be used by truthful people who are trying to protect themselves from a false positive. It is unfortunate that there is no way to release that information to just those people without making it available to everyone else at the same time. As a law enforcement officer your credibility means a lot. If your peers catch you in a lie even once you are going to never live it down. If rumors of your dishonesty make it to the state’s attorney’s office you will likely not be called to testify. Once that happens you can rest assured that defense lawyers will hear about it and start calling you constantly, and if that happens you will have a hard time maintaining this career.

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railroaded New User Offline Posts: 23 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2005	Re: I need to lie Reply #65 - Jul 28^th, 2005 at 9:09pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Yes, by all means wait until AFTER you are a cop before you start lying. After all, the Supreme Court has ruled that you can lie during interrogations. And Polygraphers often lie to catch the examinee in a lie. It seems to me that the TRUTH is in short supply in LE.


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Sergeant1107 God Member Offline Posts: 730 Location: Connecticut, USA Joined: May 21^st, 2005 Gender:	Re: I need to lie Reply #66 - Jul 28^th, 2005 at 9:41pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	railroaded wrote on Jul 28^th, 2005 at 9:09pm: Yes, by all means wait until AFTER you are a cop before you start lying. After all, the Supreme Court has ruled that you can lie during interrogations. And Polygraphers often lie to catch the examinee in a lie. It seems to me that the TRUTH is in short supply in LE. It’s unfortunate that your experiences seem to have led you to the belief that the truth is in short supply in law enforcement. My experiences indicate that it is not. There are flawed individuals in every profession. By and large, in my experience, police officers are honest people with strong moral beliefs who have a genuine desire to help. None of them are perfect, but most of them strive to do their best.

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railroaded New User Offline Posts: 23 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2005	Re: I need to lie Reply #67 - Jul 28^th, 2005 at 9:48pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Please allow to qualify my bitter-sounding comments. I know there are honest, good-hearted people working in law enforcement...especially patrol officers. I have always tried to teach my kids that cops are the good guys. Until recently, I always had nothing but a good impression of law enforcement. I had been in trouble quite a lot in my youth and had negative dealings with the police, but that was my fault and I held nothing against any of the officers who were doing their jobs. But these State's Attorney investigators are a whole other matter. I have caught them in numerous lies from day one. For instance, they asked if I have porn on my computer and I replied "Yes". The next day he called my attorney and quoted me as saying "I have a big problem with porn". They asked my kids to the CAC for their interviews and told them "We just want to protect you from who ever is hurting you. Tell us about your father." To my wife while executing the search warrant: "It doesn't bother you that your husband has porn on his computer?" During the execution of the search warrant, one of the investigators took a law code book that I had in my library, HIGHLIGHTED and UNDERLINED certain codes and sentences and left it open at my desk in front of my chair. I have never been made to feel so degraded in my life.


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Sergeant1107 God Member Offline Posts: 730 Location: Connecticut, USA Joined: May 21^st, 2005 Gender:	Re: I need to lie Reply #68 - Aug 15^th, 2005 at 6:48pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Railroaded, It would seem likely that your experience has made you cynical regarding police, and justifiably so. There are officers who break the rules and act inappropriately. There are also procedures in place to deal with them. If you feel that you have been treated unprofessionally or illegally by any police officers then you can file a complaint. If you feel the police department is not handling your complaint in the proper fashion you can go to city hall. Since you already seem to have a lawyer he could probably give you more advice on this. In most departments the bad officers do not outnumber the good. Honest, professional police officers have even more incentive than you do to get control of and/or eliminate the bad police officers in their ranks.

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