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Yes or No to these Control Questions
Dec 4th, 2003 at 10:05pm
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After reading LBTLD, I'm curious if I should answer yes or no to these controls:

Is there anything in your background that you are afraid that our investigator might find out?

Is there something that I didn't ask that you're affraid that I will ask?

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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #1 - Dec 4th, 2003 at 10:31pm
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Answer "no" to both and use countermeasures on both when hooked up to the machine.  Then, when the test is over, he will tell you that you reacted to those two questions and will ask you why you think you did.  That is when you tell him your "excuse".  For example, for the first question, you would said that when you were asked the question, you remembed sneeking into a movie theater when you were a kid and forgot to mention it to him.  On the second question, tell him that when he asked the question, you thought of how embarrassing it would be to have to tell he what you like to do in bed with your girlfriend or wife and it makes you uncomfortable.   By doing that, you give him a valid reason to why you reacted to the control questions and then he will compare the relevant questions to those.
  
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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #2 - Dec 4th, 2003 at 10:39pm
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Oh yes, Guest, please follow Treetops suggestion.....NOT!......You see George what you have spawned.  I am, certain you know what type of questions these are....and clearly Treetops does not and here is is making suggestions to people on how to defeat the test.  How ignorant can you get?  Go ahead Guest...yu are about to get caught and listening to Treetops (where he should stay), is the poorest advice that you can obtain....hey, I have a unique approach....why not tell the truth!
  
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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #3 - Dec 4th, 2003 at 11:19pm
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Why not tell the truth? If you are still asking that question, you have no idea why antipolygraph.org exists.
  
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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #4 - Dec 4th, 2003 at 11:31pm
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Guest,

The appropriate answer you should give to both of the questions you listed is "no."

I agree that the first question, "Is there anything in your background that you are afraid our investigator might find out?" is likely intended as a "control" question, and one to which you should be prepared to produce a response if you choose to employ countermeasures.

However, the second question, "Is there something that I didn't ask that you're afraid that I will ask?" is not a "control" question. It is what is commonly termed "symptomatic" or "outside issue" question. You'll find these addressed at p. 106 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector (3rd ed.). There is no need to produce a response to this question.

Torpedo seems to be suggesting that the first question you listed is also a "symptomatic" question. However, I am not confident that such is the case and, as I mentioned before, understand it to be intended as a "control" question.
  

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Reply #5 - Dec 5th, 2003 at 2:08am
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George wrote:

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I am not confident that such is the case and, as I mentioned before, understand it to be intended as a "control" question.


Guest,

George seems pretty sure of himself here, right?  Go ahead and follow his advice...he knows what he is saying...I think...looks like George may have some bad info....

Just tell the truth.  If you have nothing to hide, you'll be fine.
  
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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2003 at 4:10am
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Ray,

If you honestly think I am mistaken, please explain.

But as for your advice that Guest "[j]ust tell the truth" and that he/she will "be fine" if he/she has "nothing to hide," get real. CQT polygraphy has no scientific basis and truthful persons have no reason for confidence that the polygraph will find them to be non-deceptive.

And considering that in CQT polygraphy it is assumed that all subjects will be less than fully honest when answering the "control" questions, your admonition to "just tell the truth" is patently insincere.
  

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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2003 at 11:14pm
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George, 

It is obviously not in the best interest of polygraph to correct the errors in the advice you give to those people who intend to attempt your "countermeasures."

Much of the advice that you give on this site is mistaken...and no I won't explain how or why it is such.
  
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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #8 - Dec 5th, 2003 at 11:18pm
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Ray wrote on Dec 5th, 2003 at 11:14pm:

Much of the advice that you give on this site is mistaken...and no I won't explain how or why it is such.


No, of course you wont.
  
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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #9 - Dec 6th, 2003 at 12:45am
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n0mad,
Why would/should I reveal George's errors?
  
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Re: Yes or No to these Control Questions
Reply #10 - Dec 6th, 2003 at 12:50am
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You can't have a debate without both sides.  Even if what you have to say is legitimate, it will have no baring. The amount of people who take polygraph's compared to those who come here is no comparison. Your secret is safe with "us".  Lips Sealed
  
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