Ted Seals, although I don't approve of some of the choices you have made in your past, I am happy that you took the time to post here about your experience.  You are helping to show proof that the polygraph is severely flawed.  It is routinely beaten both with and without countermeasures.  I have been a police officer for over 18 years, and during my time as a cop I have heard many stories about the polygraph's use and misuse.  The state I work in has the good sense to not use lie detector tests.  My point is that whether I agree with an individual or not, I would like to see more people like yourself step up and share their experiences of beating the polygraph, because I know it happens more than most would suspect.

Ted, you posted the following: "I took my polygraph with LAPD last month and passed it"...."I took the interview and scored a 96"..."I lied about my drug history by saying I tried marijuana twice and never touched anything else."  You then listed the exact questions on the test and your exact responses to the post-test questions.

You better hope there were plenty of applicants who took the poly last month, reported using marijuana only twice on their application forms, AND scored a 96 on the interview portion of testing.

In addition, examiners do keep a record of the exact questions they ask on each test; and keep in mind, these questions are generally changed from test to test.

Nice try to cover your tracks though.  It may not be tomorrow or next week but this will catch up to you.

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Right.  It's all a big conspiracy, and by the way, they ARE talking about you.

Skeptic

Ray wrote on Nov 20^th, 2003 at 11:52pm:


Ray,

Assuming that the details that "Ted Seals" posted in his first message are accurate, then I agree with you that they may well provide an adequate basis for his identification. However, I think doing so would be against the interests of the LAPD polygraph unit because it would necessarily entail informing others in the LAPD (and the Public Safety Hiring Division) that they had miserably failed to detect both deception and countermeasures. In addition, it would lead to personal embarrassment for whoever turned out to be the polygrapher who passed "Ted Seals" (as well as the presumably more senior polygraphers who conducted "quality control").

This Ted person makes me sad, mad  and disgusted.  Sadly my sons chances of becoming a police officer were ruined by the by the LAPD and its polygraph testing, he is not alone as so many other (honest applicants) including my son did not use countermeasures and told the whole truth, yet were DQ'ed due to a test that should never be used for anything. 

The fact that this Ted person is here bragging about his past filled with unlawful practices and actions not becoming anyone seeking a position in law enforcement,and the fact he still passed the test is of little surprise to me as the test itself is so flawed that the lier passed and the honest young applicants fail.

I wonder when this City will come to it's sences and stop using this test as a determiner for the suitability of those persons going through the process.  The B.I.s should use their investagations to investigate !!! (hopefully finding those applicants who un-fairly include names of people who will out and out lie for them) and DQ  those liars not applicants who are so fearful of the polygraph that they take too many breaths or sweat or seem scared during the process of taking the test itself.  For Gods sake this City is financially in a real bad situation and these tests are expensive and unrealiable.  Why continue to pay for them?????????  Let's go back to the old way and have the Cops do their job and pick those applicants who are suitable and come reccommended by their familys, neighbors, bosses, co-workers, teachers, preists and friends.

I pary that this Ted person gets no further than the front door of the Academy and is found out!  Or, like so many others before him, he will cost this City and its citizens money in the future by acting out his past and being the creep that he had admitted to being by his posts here.  God is watching "TED" don't be so darn proud of being a liar, drug user, and a all around smart ass of a person.  If  ??? you make it through the entire process you might become the next Rafel Perez!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and land your own butt in jail.

Oh yeah, and Mom, wake up, there is no God.  There is no heaven or hell; no souls; no afterlife; nothing.  The only ones watching me are those looking at me.  Nighty night, Mom!

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I do believe your story is a fabrication.  I believed you up until this point.  Tell me, what is your academy date??

What upcoming academy?? I am also done with the entire process and am waiting for my academy date.

Seeing as how there will be no more academies starting for 2003, and academy dates have not been set for 2004, I find it hard to believe you are scheduled for an academy that hasn't been scheduled!  

It can't possibly be class 01/04, because that is a lateral class; unless you are a lateral?