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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6220 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	New Mexico Judge's Findings on Polygraph Testing Sep 23^rd, 2003 at 2:19pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	New Mexico is the only state in the United States where polygraph evidence has been routinely admitted in criminal cases. The New Mexico Supreme Court recently directed District Judge Richard J. Knowles to enter findings of fact and conclusions of law regarding polygraph testing. His report, (New Mexico Supreme Court No. 27,915) may be downloaded as an 869 kb PDF file here: http://antipolygraph.org/litigation/nm-27915/knowles-polygraph-findings.pdf After reviewing a large body of documentary evidence and hearing testimony from experts, Judge Knowles concluded that "[t]he results of polygraph testing are not sufficiently reliable for admissibility in courts in New Mexico."

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Anonymous Guest	Re: New Mexico Judge's Findings on Polygraph Testi Reply #1 - Sep 23^rd, 2003 at 3:08pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: ...New Mexico is the only state in the United States where polygraph evidence has been routinely admitted in criminal cases. The New Mexico Supreme Court recently directed District Judge Richard J. Knowles to enter findings of fact and conclusions of law regarding polygraph testing. His report, (New Mexico Supreme Court No. 27,915) may be downloaded as an 869 kb PDF file here: http://antipolygraph.org/litigation/nm-27915/knowles-polygraph-findings. pdf After reviewing a large body of documentary evidence and hearing testimony from experts, Judge Knowles concluded that "[t]he results of polygraph testing are not sufficiently reliable for admissibility in courts in New Mexico." ... As opposed to what one would be led to conclude from a perusal of the postings coming from our friend, the Breeze, Judge Knowles gives reason to hope that there actually is at least a modicum of critical thinking eminating from the Southwest.


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Marty Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 499 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2002	Re: New Mexico Judge's Findings on Polygraph Testi Reply #2 - Sep 23^rd, 2003 at 7:42pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	George, Thanks for that post. It's one of the clearest opinions I have read with an excellent overview and clear description of the polygraph. I was also struck by paragraph #61. -Marty

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Mr. Truth Very Senior User Offline Posts: 194 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2003	Re: New Mexico Judge's Findings on Polygraph Testi Reply #3 - Sep 23^rd, 2003 at 8:23pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I like paragraph 62: Experienced examiners could not detect counter-measures in the lab study. But get them in the field, and boy-oh-boy, they are experts, sleuths, your regular Sherlock Holmes at detecting them (so they say). So why does the Court give its tacit approval of the use of polygraphs for, to use an example, sex offenders? If the test is bullshit, for lack of a better technical term at this time, why is it allowed for anyone at all? What about the high failure rates for law enforcement candidates? It is simply mind-boggling that anyone in the government who deals with national security would put any credence in this farce. The only thing polygraphy has going for it is time - all the years of people believing it works, it has become an urban legend that can't (yet, anyway) be dispelled. How many court rulings and scientific studies is it going to take to put an end to this charade?


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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Re: New Mexico Judge's Findings on Polygraph Testi Reply #4 - Sep 23^rd, 2003 at 11:22pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Mr. Truth, The courts allow polygraphs for sex offenders because the legislature enacted a legal and binding statute authorizing it. The courts are powerless in this situation, except that they can exercise discretion when a sex offender is brought before them on a probation revocation due to a failed polygraph.

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