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Sep 16th, 2003 at 6:08pm
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My question is about doug williams, why does he charge for his manual, and is it worth the money?  Does he teach anything different then what has been said in the book on antipolygraph.org?
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 16th, 2003 at 6:42pm
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If I go into a polygraph interview and just be calm the whole interview and tell the investigator that I have nothing to hide—and indeed I don’t—what will he do?  Basically answer yes to all of his “control” questions.  Have you ever seriously lied to a loved one or to get your self out of trouble? Will that be disqualifying?  I can't help but think any person who is honest would not do such.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 25th, 2003 at 11:07am
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Joe,

What Doug gives you is a personal insider's view on the whole process.  He has extensive experience in the polygraph field, and has given over 3000 polygraph examinations himself.  After reading his manual, I feel confident about the whole process (pre-test, in-test, countermeasures, post-test), and I know what kind of game the polygrapher is playing with interviewee.  Doug will also answer your emails about anything you might have a question about immediately (he answered my last email in a couple of hours).  You can also call him, and he will actually answer the phone and coach you.   

The information on this website is outstanding, but Doug's manual is written for the layman, and is very easy to understand.  He prepares you step by step for the entire interview, and you basically know every trick in the polygrapher's bag before he pulls it out.  In my humble opinion, his manual.....which you can download and print immediately, is worth every penny.

Good luck to you,
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Reply #3 - Sep 25th, 2003 at 9:26pm
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Lets all do the math together.  3000 polygraph examinations administered over a period of, lets say 15 years (And I don't think Mr. Williams was an examiner even that long.).  That's 200 exams per year.  Figure in any given year, minus weekends, vacation, a few sick days, and holidays you have, what, about 220 work days per year?  That's probably on the high side.  Given this, an examiner would literally have to administer one exam per day, for every work day, for the past 15 years, non-stop, no breaks, no let up.

The Bullshit meter is pegging!

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Reply #4 - Sep 25th, 2003 at 9:46pm
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Batman,

A polygraph examiner should be able to do two exams per day (perhaps three on a busy productive one), yes?  What is the problem with averaging one per day on days worked?   And since there is no investigation needed to ask "Did you do it?" in a CQT exam, what would Mr. Williams or any other CQT examiner be doing if he didn't give at least one exam on a day worked...that a lot of coffee and donuts and posts on antipolygraph.org  Cheesy
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 26th, 2003 at 12:37am
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Batman,

Don't shoot the messenger here.  I was just repeating information that Doug had posted on his website.  If you don't believe that he administered that many examinations, maybe you should take it up with him.   

Personally, I passed my polygraph largely because of the information in Doug's manual.  If anybody asks me about him, I have to say unequivocally that he is a stand up guy that knows his stuff, and that his manual is worth every penny.  That's my personal opinion, you can take it, or leave it.   

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Reply #6 - Sep 26th, 2003 at 3:26am
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Batman,

Glad to see you are venturing out of the cave once again.
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 26th, 2003 at 5:48am
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Kona,

Did you lie to the relevant questions?

Also, I believe that Mr. Williams is including instructional polygraphs in the number of examinations conducted.
  

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Reply #8 - Sep 26th, 2003 at 7:23am
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Kona,

See McCloughan's query to you in the previous post.

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J.B. McCloughan,

Sorry about the off topic but noting our interest in the GKT, do you have any speculations as to why the Westerfield polygraph was not a GKT? It appears to have been a nearly perfect crime for application of the GKT as there was clearly a lot of specific info that someone never in the girl's residence would not have been aware of. I find it odd that neither defense or prosecution pursued this avenue given it's widely agreed superiority to the CQT. Could have saved a lot of money.

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Reply #9 - Sep 26th, 2003 at 12:12pm
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JB and Marty,

I told the truth on the relevant questions, utilized no countermeasures, and had "problems" with some drug and sex questions on the first go around.   

On my retest a week later, I told the same truth on the relevant questions, used Doug Williams' countermeasures, and passed the polygraph without any problems.  Go figure.

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