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RETAO New User Offline Posts: 2 Joined: Jun 5^th, 2003	Prison and a law suit Jun 6^th, 2003 at 7:40pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I need your help. I am a convicted sex offender and yes, according to the stupid standards put in place by society, I am guilty. My lover is only 10 years only but she is very mature and knows her own mind. The fact that I am 42 should have nothing to do with it. As a part of my probation I am required to take polygraph test. When I first started probation I was too afraid to do any thing with my lover because I knew I had to take a polygraph test and fear they would find out. Then I found your website. It sounded great. I would have no problems with the polygraph test. So I resumed my affair with my lover. When my polygraph test came up I had a big problem. When I got to the polygraph office the guy there had a copy of your book sitting on the table. He asked me if I had read this book and I lied and told him that I had not. On the test he asked me questions about having sex with children. I tried to do the things that your book recommended but I guess they did not work. After the test the guy told me that I had lied about having sex with children and that I had been trying to fake him out. Then my lover told her parents we were seeing each other again. I was arrested and questioned by the police. To make a long story short, they found out everything. I am now facing prison and my lover's parents are suing me. They told me that they are considering bring criminal charges against you and your website. Also my lover's parents and some other parents of children who have been molested are planning to sue you and your website for helping to get their kids molested. Is there anything you can do to help me.


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Fair Chance God Member Offline Posts: 551 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2002	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #1 - Jun 6^th, 2003 at 8:02pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I am not normally a skeptic but this posting reads like a really bad TV telemovie on a third class cable network.


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Fed-up Fed Guest	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #2 - Jun 6^th, 2003 at 9:05pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	CONGRATULATIONS George. It's your first testimonial. I know you and your little band of supporters are very proud. 'I need your help. I am a convicted sex offender and yes, according to the stupid standards put in place by society, I am guilty. My lover is only 10 years only but she is very mature and knows her own mind. The fact that I am 42 should have nothing to do with it. As a part of my probation I am required to take polygraph test. When I first started probation I was too afraid to do any thing with my lover because I knew I had to take a polygraph test and fear they would find out. Then I found your website. It sounded great. I would have no problems with the polygraph test. So I resumed my affair with my lover. When my polygraph test came up I had a big problem. When I got to the polygraph office the guy there had a copy of your book sitting on the table. He asked me if I had read this book and I lied and told him that I had not. On the test he asked me questions about having sex with children. I tried to do the things that your book recommended but I guess they did not work. After the test the guy told me that I had lied about having sex with children and that I had been trying to fake him out. Then my lover told her parents we were seeing each other again. I was arrested and questioned by the police. To make a long story short, they found out everything. I am now facing prison and my lover's parents are suing me. They told me that they are considering bring criminal charges against you and your website. Also my lover's parents and some other parents of children who have been molested are planning to sue you and your website for helping to get their kids molested. Is there anything you can do to help me. "


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6211 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #3 - Jun 6^th, 2003 at 9:29pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Fair Chance, RETAO's posting is a fairly transparent fabrication. If it were true, and RETAO had indeed been "arrested and questioned by the police" and they "found out everything," then RETAO would still be in custody and not posting such drivel here. It is disappointing to see polygraph supporters stooping to such disinformation tactics and attempting to silence this website through threatened legal action (a recurring theme from one or more anonymous polygraph proponents).

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beech trees God Member Offline Posts: 593 Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2001 Gender:	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #4 - Jun 6^th, 2003 at 10:23pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Sigh. Just when you think a polygrapher couldn't stoop any lower, they surprise you yet again. RETAO wrote on Jun 6^th, 2003 at 7:40pm: I need your help. I am a convicted sex offender and yes, according to the stupid standards put in place by society, I am guilty. My lover is only 10 years only but she is very mature and knows her own mind. The fact that I am 42 should have nothing to do with it. As a part of my probation I am required to take polygraph test. When I first started probation I was too afraid to do any thing with my lover because I knew I had to take a polygraph test and fear they would find out. Then I found your website. It sounded great. I would have no problems with the polygraph test. So I resumed my affair with my lover. When my polygraph test came up I had a big problem. When I got to the polygraph office the guy there had a copy of your book sitting on the table. He asked me if I had read this book and I lied and told him that I had not. On the test he asked me questions about having sex with children. I tried to do the things that your book recommended but I guess they did not work. After the test the guy told me that I had lied about having sex with children and that I had been trying to fake him out. Then my lover told her parents we were seeing each other again. I was arrested and questioned by the police. To make a long story short, they found out everything. I am now facing prison and my lover's parents are suing me. They told me that they are considering bring criminal charges against you and your website. Also my lover's parents and some other parents of children who have been molested are planning to sue you and your website for helping to get their kids molested. Is there anything you can do to help me.

	"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." ~ Thomas Paine
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Poly-Killer Senior User Offline "Knock, Knock!" Posts: 78 Location: Everywhere Joined: Apr 29^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #5 - Jun 6^th, 2003 at 10:29pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	???...What a pitiful attempt...I would have thought the poly-geeks could at least be a little more creative. Oh well


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Fred F. Very Senior User Offline Get Educated.... Knowledge is Power Posts: 225 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2001	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #6 - Jun 7^th, 2003 at 3:05am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: CONGRATULATIONS George. It's your first testimonial. I know you and your little band of supporters are very proud. 'I need your help. I am a convicted sex offender and yes, according to the stupid standards put in place by society, I am guilty. My lover is only 10 years only but she is very mature and knows her own mind. The fact that I am 42 should have nothing to do with it. As a part of my probation I am required to take polygraph test. When I first started probation I was too afraid to do any thing with my lover because I knew I had to take a polygraph test and fear they would find out. Then I found your website. It sounded great. I would have no problems with the polygraph test. So I resumed my affair with my lover. When my polygraph test came up I had a big problem. When I got to the polygraph office the guy there had a copy of your book sitting on the table. He asked me if I had read this book and I lied and told him that I had not. On the test he asked me questions about having sex with children. I tried to do the things that your book recommended but I guess they did not work. After the test the guy told me that I had lied about having sex with children and that I had been trying to fake him out. Then my lover told her parents we were seeing each other again. I was arrested and questioned by the police. To make a long story short, they found out everything. I am now facing prison and my lover's parents are suing me. They told me that they are considering bring criminal charges against you and your website. Also my lover's parents and some other parents of children who have been molested are planning to sue you and your website for helping to get their kids molested. Is there anything you can do to help me. " George Maschke Replies Quote: RETAO's posting is a fairly transparent fabrication. If it were true, and RETAO had indeed been "arrested and questioned by the police" and they "found out everything," then RETAO would still be in custody and not posting such drivel here It is disappointing to see polygraph supporters stooping to such disinformation tactics and attempting to silence this website through threatened legal action (a recurring theme from one or more anonymous polygraph proponents). Mr. Fed-up Fed, You need to re-train on your investigative techniques. Fred F.


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Skeptic God Member Offline Posts: 549 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2002	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #7 - Jun 7^th, 2003 at 4:35am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: I am not normally a skeptic but this posting reads like a really bad TV telemovie on a third class cable network. I am. I'd bet good money it's baloney. Ironic. You'd think such "experts in human behavior" would be able to construct a convincing fabrication. Skeptic


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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #8 - Jun 7^th, 2003 at 5:12pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	???Really. A 42 year-old has sex with a 10 year-old and gets put on probation ??? Not in this country. Such an act is a life felony in 75% of the states. What a joke.

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Fair Chance God Member Offline Posts: 551 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2002	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #9 - Jun 8^th, 2003 at 2:52am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	RETAO wrote on Jun 6^th, 2003 at 7:40pm: Then my lover told her parents we were seeing each other again. I was arrested and questioned by the police. To make a long story short, they found out everything. RETAO, Flaws in your storyboard: 1: Polygraph has nothing to do with anything. The polygraph is inadmissable in court. Fact, a living human being held admissable testimony against you. Once again, fact of admissable evidence over polygraph voodoo. 2: You were "arrested" because of testimony, not polygraph evidence. 3: I doubt that you would make bail if "they found out about everything". This story and its resulting publicity would be the best thing that ever happened to antipolygraph.org. The court trial would be so juicy that many national affiliate broadcast systems would be outbidding it even more than the O.J. Simpson case. I could see all of the expert "pro-polygraph" and "anti-polygraph" advisors being paid astronomical amounts of money for their analysis. The members of the NAS and APA would become instant media darlings. This would bring the end of polygraph usage ten times more quickly than anything this site could do. Bring on the lawsuit, I can't wait to see the four ring circus. I would leave regards if there was anything credible to leave regards to.


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Twoblock God Member Offline Posts: 732 Location: AR. Joined: Oct 15^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #10 - Jun 8^th, 2003 at 5:32am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	RETAO Sex with a 10 year old?? Then your wienie must be the size of Fed-up Fed's brain which wouldn't fill a themble. Your post is a crock. If it were fact, you wouldn't be worth the powder it would take to blow you to hell. However, the DA and police (who let you out of jail) would be. Care to let us know who they are? Fed-up Fed Your federal employment must be in the congressional realm. Your lack of intelligence fits that body. If you are in federal LE, then Lord help us all. What a waste of our taxes in either case!!


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Batman Very Senior User Offline Posts: 115 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2003	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #11 - Jun 8^th, 2003 at 11:41am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Would I be considered anti-polygraph if I agreed that RETAO's post is BS? I'll take that chance. It's bogus, but why is it assumed that a pro-poly person wrote it? Batman


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Poly-Killer Senior User Offline "Knock, Knock!" Posts: 78 Location: Everywhere Joined: Apr 29^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #12 - Jun 8^th, 2003 at 4:31pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Kudos to the Bat-dude for being honest. However, I still have to say it is probably a "reasonable" assumption the post came from a pro-poly individual. Why would anyone else go to the trouble? ??? PK


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Fair Chance God Member Offline Posts: 551 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2002	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #13 - Jun 8^th, 2003 at 7:11pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Batman wrote on Jun 8^th, 2003 at 11:41am: Would I be considered anti-polygraph if I agreed that RETAO's post is BS? I'll take that chance. It's bogus, but why is it assumed that a pro-poly person wrote it? Batman No Batman, you have consistantly stated belief in the use of the polygraph and I believe that no reasonable reader would assume otherwise. RETAO "lost his fear" of the polygraph due to information that he obtained from this board. This is consistant with many antipolygraph proponents after they found out about "stim" test. Without fear, the utility of the polygraph diminishes. The rest of his statement almost reads that everything advised about or associated with this website "failed". This has been a reoccuring theme of many polygraph proponents (including the threat of lawsuits and the accountability of those who post advice here to be "unpatriotic" and "a danger to law and order"). If I could find anything factual about this story on some news website or local newpaper, I would have to give some credence to the story. It is just too sensational to quelch and word of mouth would blow the lid off of any attempt to silence the story. It is the perfect case study for "MEAGAN's LAW" for sex offenders to be registered. The negative connotation of information posted by RETAO which he attributed to obtaining from this website is quite similar to presentations in the past from other posters who disagreed with the dissemination of countermeasures. I would infer from the similarities of presentation that this was created by a "polygraph proponent". My apologies to reasonable polygraph proponents who would not waste their time fabricating such a posting.


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Twoblock God Member Offline Posts: 732 Location: AR. Joined: Oct 15^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: Prison and a law suit Reply #14 - Jun 8^th, 2003 at 7:31pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Batman I don't consider you anti-poly. I consider your post telling it like it is. Right-on, Bud. As to your last question - Use you investigative skills, analyze RETAO's writing, compare it to another poster's writing and I'll bet you can guess who RETAO is.


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