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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Fishing May 3^rd, 2003 at 5:26pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I always thought polygraphs were "fishing expeditions Now look what they've done. "A new rule requires Great Walleye Weekend participants to sign an agreement that allows organizers to conduct a lie detector test if a jackpot fish is hooked. The winner must then conclusively pass the polygraph test to claim the $10,000. A failed test, or an inconclusive test, will cause a disqualification." http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=7897580&BRD=1406&PAG=461&dept_id=18008...

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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6270 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: Fishing Reply #1 - May 3^rd, 2003 at 7:27pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	The organizers' misplaced reliance on lie detector "testing" could actually play to the advantage of any cheats who understand "the lie behind the lie detector."

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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Re: Fishing Reply #2 - May 4^th, 2003 at 2:56am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	George, What do you suppose happens if both guys in the boat fail the test? Will the organizers say the fish jumped in the boat by itself

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Seeker Very Senior User Offline "There are only two sins: The first is to interfere with the growth of another human being, and the second is to interfere with one's own growth." Anonymous Posts: 128 Location: Roanoke, VA Joined: Oct 19^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: Fishing Reply #3 - May 4^th, 2003 at 9:17am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Oh heavens! Just when you think you can see above ground, someone goes and does something like administering the polygraph to contest winners just to prove how difficult outlawing stupidity is going to be! This "fear" mode that America has been operating on these past couple of years is really sending us back into the times of the Salem witch hunts at incredibly rapid speeds! I haven't decided if I should laugh or cry on this one. Regards,


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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Re: Fishing Reply #4 - May 4^th, 2003 at 4:12pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Seeker, My sentiments exactly. Of course the polygraphers working in the private sector are always looking for new fish to fry

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Fair Chance God Member Offline Posts: 551 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2002	Re: Fishing Reply #5 - May 5^th, 2003 at 1:45pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Like most polygraph usage, a good investigation would be far more appropriate and reliable than their solution. Sounds like they are trying to get out of paying the purse since it automatically disqualifies the winner if they are found deceptive OR inconclusive (instead of having a winner, there would be no award at all due to contested results). Smells fishy to me. Regards.


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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Re: Fishing Reply #6 - May 5^th, 2003 at 3:43pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I have an idea. Make the contest organizers take a polygraph to guarantee that there actually ARE tagged fish that can be caught. Have them agree that if the results are failing or inconclusive then they will pay $1,000 to every entrant. Suppose they would do it?

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